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Old 07-02-2003, 05:08 PM   #1
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Q. for those who arent running rear speakers...

for those who arent running rear speakers...

how do they sound? is it enough mids and highs with just the fronts?
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Old 07-02-2003, 06:43 PM   #2
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Well, your satisfaction w/o rear speakers depends on how much of an audiophile you are. If you are new to the game, you probably won't miss your rear speakers too much. However, most will notice poor sound stage quality without the rear speakers. Luccily are cars are well-designed for audio quality, and from the driver's seat you won't hear too much from the rears. If you can, just run some power to your factor rears from your headunit. A little bit of sound from them will go a long way toward improving the overall "feel" of the system. Also, you may want to look into diamond audio speakers. Their crossovers have a "rear acoustic fill" output that will drive rear speakers correctly for the best overall sound. That way you don't have to worry about extra amplification channels and another set of crossovers.
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:17 PM   #3
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You'll notice a pretty drastic difference by just removing the rear speakers in the car is you are using the FACTORY locations only in the front.

If you are planning on building custom kick panels and staging them properly, you won't miss the rears at all.
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Old 07-02-2003, 10:06 PM   #4
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I have Rainbow Pros in Stock location of sedan. I also have an A/D/S/ 312RS.2 sub firing through the ski pass. I don't miss the rears at all.
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Old 07-02-2003, 10:13 PM   #5
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Sorry DJ, but I couldn't disagree more.
Rear speakers ruin the sound stage. In the studio we don't use rear speakers when recording music. Now, movie soundtracks are a different story, but that's for those who watch movies in their car. I don't.

Front speakers attempt to bring the sound stage where it belongs and as it's intended, which is, right in front of you just as if you were sitting and listening to the performance live.

DSP is a new thing which tries to recreate the reverb/echo of certain types of "rooms" but again, most studio recordings are done so as to place the performance right in front of you using 2 "near field" monitors.
If you want to hear how the producer and artist intended the recording to sound, then you must try to closely simulate the environment in which the music was recorded. That means rear speakers will ruin proper placement of sound sources.

Now, that does NOT mean that using rear speakers is a bad thing. Many people like the way front and rear speakers "fill" the car with sound.
My preference is for better sound stage which is better done with front speakers and not using the rears.

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Old 07-03-2003, 03:38 AM   #6
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if you like the live sound then try running components without rear fill. rear fills tend to clutter and mess up imaging. itll give u a good soundstage. it is very hard to tune a system with rear fills. but a well tuned system with rear fill sounds great. kick panels are the best imo, then you wont need rear fills as Ron said and get a great sound stage. if you are not into imaging and want full loud sound go for rear fills.
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