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Old 11-27-2012, 12:38 PM   #21
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:59 PM   #22
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On a separate note, you can tell the author of the article in the OP knows guns. In any other article a mini-14 would be an AK or an assault rifle, and the .22 revolver would be a Uzi with a high capacity clip, lol.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:04 PM   #23
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Saw this on the local news the other day, the girl was super cute, too. What a shame.

Dude is definitely a little deranged, to say the least.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:52 PM   #24
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That guy is a straight up psychopath. I can't believe he dragged a dying teenage girl down his basement stairs and then shot her in the head with a .22. What kind of man shoots an unarmed chick anyway? B&E or not it should be clear that an 18 year old girl is not a threat to an armed adult.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:11 PM   #25
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That guy is a straight up psychopath. I can't believe he dragged a dying teenage girl down his basement stairs and then shot her in the head with a .22. What kind of man shoots an unarmed chick anyway? B&E or not it should be clear that an 18 year old girl is not a threat to an armed adult.
I'm going to disagree. If there is an intruder in my place of residence, it's an intruder. I honestly don't give a fuck if it's a 15-year-old kid. That moron should have known better than break into my home and enter. And I don't know if he/she is armed, has a knife, or whatever. I'm not willing to risk it, either.

When it comes to potential threats, it's command first, make second. You bet your ass I'm going to take aim at center mass and scream at the intruder to get on the ground, regardless of age, race, religion, or sexual preference. If he/she doesn't comply and makes any advancement, there will be lots of noise.

To be clear, I am NOT going to put the barrel under the intruder's chin and "make sure the job's done" (or whatever that nutcase said).
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I'm going to disagree. If there is an intruder in my place of residence, it's an intruder. I honestly don't give a fuck if it's a 15-year-old kid. That moron should have known better than break into my home and enter. And I don't know if he/she is armed, has a knife, or whatever. I'm not willing to risk it, either.

When it comes to potential threats, it's command first, make second. You bet your ass I'm going to take aim at center mass and scream at the intruder to get on the ground, regardless of age, race, religion, or sexual preference. If he/she doesn't comply and makes any advancement, there will be lots of noise.

To be clear, I am NOT going to put the barrel under the intruder's chin and "make sure the job's done" (or whatever that nutcase said).
Sounds like this guy didn't bother with the command, he shot first, second, and then once more for merry measure. Don't get me wrong, I support the right to defend with deadly force as I would do myself, but this guy was looking for an excuse to kill.
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That guy is a straight up psychopath. I can't believe he dragged a dying teenage girl down his basement stairs and then shot her in the head with a .22. What kind of man shoots an unarmed chick anyway? B&E or not it should be clear that an 18 year old girl is not a threat to an armed adult.
BS. An 18 year old girl breaking into my house is definitely a threat.

Now while she's laying on the ground after having been shot, I'm not dragging her around and giving her a coup de grace, but I'm not giving her a pass in my house just because she lacks a penis.
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The family made a facebook page for the two but closes it after there were more disgust on he two rrobbing a senior citizen then the home owner killing them.

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On a separate note, you can tell the author of the article in the OP knows guns. In any other article a mini-14 would be an AK or an assault rifle, and the .22 revolver would be a Uzi with a high capacity clip, lol.
They'd be Glocks or AKs, just like everything else criminals use.

Just watch the latest Bond movie. All the bad guys shoot Glocks.
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Wow.

I hope you never become a gun owner once you get your citizenship.

The criminals put themselves in the situation, but the homeowner murdered them. He went beyond defending his property.
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Wow.

I hope you never become a gun owner once you get your citizenship.

The criminals put themselves in the situation, but the homeowner murdered them. He went beyond defending his property.
Owning a gun does not require citizneship. Major face palm. I already own plenty of guns and will have no problem killing u if u break into my house and threaten me or my baby

Those idiot kids try to steal and take advantage of a senior citizen and got their asses handed to them. Their friends and family try to say that they were good kids and ignore the fact they were trying to steal from a senior citizen. Good kids dont steal from others especially helpless senior citizens. Good kids arent criminals.

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Owning a gun does not require citizneship. Major face palm. I already own plenty of guns and will have no problem killing u if u break into my house and threaten me or my baby

Those idiot kids try to steal and take advantage of a senior citizen and got their asses handed to them. Their friends and family try to say that they were good kids and ignore the fact they were trying to steal from a senior citizen. Good kids dont steal from others especially helpless senior citizens. Good kids arent criminals.

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Helpless? Lol obviously not. Id done same but one in the head and done. They even say in CHL class to kill not wound an intruder so they dont sue later.

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Owning a gun does not require citizneship. Major face palm. I already own plenty of guns and will have no problem killing u if u break into my house and threaten me or my baby
That's scary.

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No one is denying that what they did is wrong, and the home owner certainly has a right to protect himself. He stopped protecting himself when he murdered them.
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Owning a gun does not require citizneship. Major face palm. I already own plenty of guns and will have no problem killing u if u break into my house and threaten me or my baby

Those idiot kids try to steal and take advantage of a senior citizen and got their asses handed to them. Their friends and family try to say that they were good kids and ignore the fact they were trying to steal from a senior citizen. Good kids dont steal from others especially helpless senior citizens. Good kids arent criminals.

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If you are ever put in this situation, you better hope they don't go digging through your forum posts to use against you (they will). You've essentially admitted that you aren't going to shoot to stop the threat, but to kill. That is going to be tough to overcome in court.

Not only that, you're willing to lend your financial support to a guy who didn't just defend himself, but committed murder once the threat had stopped. If you can't see that, you're just as delusional and dangerous as the guy in the article.

You might want to spend some time understanding the limits of your rights, because as it stands you are completely screwed if you were put in a similar situation.
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Stop trying to justify the robbery.

It is never about rights.I can care less if I can shoot or can't shoot someone. If someone is going to break in my house and if I feel that I or my baby is being threaten then I will kill them regardless what the law will say.



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Stop trying to justify the robbery.

It is never about rights.I can care less if I can shoot or can't shoot someone. If someone is going to break in my house and if I feel that I or my baby is being threaten then I will kill them.

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No one is arguing your right to defend yourself nor attemtping to "justify the robbery."

Most of us in this thread are gun owners, I would imagine, by way of the forum it is posted in.

What most of us are raising issue with is that the guy neutralized the threat, but then went on to execute/murder the girl.

The fact that you don't see this is why it's scary that you own a firearm.
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If you are ever put in this situation, you better hope they don't go digging through your forum posts to use against you (they will). You've essentially admitted that you aren't going to shoot to stop the threat, but to kill. That is going to be tough to overcome in court.

Not only that, you're willing to lend your financial support to a guy who didn't just defend himself, but committed murder once the threat had stopped. If you can't see that, you're just as delusional and dangerous as the guy in the article.

You might want to spend some time understanding the limits of your rights, because as it stands you are completely screwed if you were put in a similar situation.
Blah blah. Trying to scare someone on the internet is very comical.

Yes, I am trained and taught to kill/eliminate the threat. I am not going to waste my time, resources and put my life and the life of my newborn at risk because I am waiting to get a non lethal shot. When I shoot, it is going to be center mass and I will double tap. I am not going to shot someone in the arms or legs just because u told me not to.

The dude defended himselve and his property from two thugs. I'll will bet that if these kids were black then everyone would be okay with it. Just because they were white, everyone is claiming that "they were good kids and didn't deserve to die."

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Blah blah. Trying to scare someone on the internet is very comical.

Yes, I am trained and taught to kill/eliminate the threat. I am not going to waste my time, resources and put my life and the life of my newborn at risk because I am waiting to get a non lethal shot. When I shoot, it is going to be center mass and I will double tap. I am not going to shot someone in the arms or legs just because u told me not to.

The dude defended himselve and his property from two thugs. I'll will bet that if these kids were black then everyone would be okay with it. Just because they were white, everyone is claiming that "they were good kids and didn't deserve to die."

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Dude, you're an idiot. And I don't say that in this forum very much.

He EXECUTED them. Read that again. EXECUTED. It wasn't that he just shot them in self defense and left them to die. He dragged them next to each other as they were dying and then shot them at point blank range into their skull. They were no longer a threat. That's a cold-blooded execution and it's murder.

He was well within his rights to do what he did up until the point he moved them and shot them. You would be too if you shot an intruder or killed it while shooting, depending on your state. But no one, anywhere, will get away with executing an intruder like this guy did.
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