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Old 12-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #121
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Wifey and I are considering an A5 to replace her high mileage 04 Lexus ES300. But I think I'll heed advice from this thread and only own it under warranty then get rid of it in a couple years.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #122
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Wifey and I are considering an A5 to replace her high mileage 04 Lexus ES300. But I think I'll heed advice from this thread and only own it under warranty then get rid of it in a couple years.
Buy another Lexus. Fantastic cars.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:06 PM   #123
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I got myself a b6 s4. Love it so far. I do miss my 3 though..
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #124
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I got myself a b6 s4. Love it so far. I do miss my 3 though..
Does the interior bother you a lot? I want an Audi for the exterior styling but even in the RS4 I did not really "feel" the interior. It was nice and maybe I've just been driving a BMW for too long but it didn't feel as nice.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:22 PM   #125
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Buy another Lexus. Fantastic cars.
For sure, 0 problems at 5.5 years. Love the new GS350 and the interior is actually nicer than the LS.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:23 PM   #126
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For sure, 0 problems at 5.5 years. Love the new GS350 and the interior is actually nicer than the LS.
I had a terrible time driving a Lexus however I haven't drove the new GS, I'll have to try it. The steering was so damn light, the window switches were utterly retarded, just lots of little things.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:27 PM   #127
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As for Audi "overtaking" BMW, I got mixed feelings on this. On top of of the sportscar range, I think Audi has some fairly convincing cars in the R8; that R8 has motors that range from a V10 550+ hp motor to a 400+ hp V8; looks are subjective, but I think most enthusiasts find the car at minimum a nice car; it's got ties to a Lamborghini, has a mid engine placement that most people associate with exotics/super cars so that can't be all bad. BMW closest car would be the new M6; traditional engine/drivetrain layout and a blown V8 with lots of torque. The M6 seems to me more of a GT than sportscar oriented platform say in the guise of a V10 R8. Two different cars, both fast in a straight line, but what's more important, traditional layout, or something more intentionally sporting in a mid engine layout? Boils down to taste I think.

Down range from there, there are the "barge" cars, meaning the big sedans. These cars are not really sporting cars. They are no doubt fast in a straight line, but on a enthusiast forum like this, its got to turn and handle, which 5000 lb cars aren't really meant to do so skipping this segment for an "enthusiast" discussion seems appropriate. Further down range, we get to place where this forum is focused, the M3/335 vs RS5/S5/S4 cars. These cars accelerate the same. For enthusiasts, how do they handle? Well, the M3 will slide, hang its tale all day long while in a Quattro with that torque vectoring diff, it's grip all day long. Some/many Fellahs like the challenge of a rwd car; I like it too but it takes more concentration/effort but that's alright. In this same sporting vain, those that have ever successively clicked off 2 or more heel-toe down shifts in the braking zone will know the joy of that scintillating feeling but that sporting option is not available in RS5. This really is about choices in going fast, and how one likes to do it. Having owned Quattros in the past and still owning an ur quattro, driving quickly in a quattro is way way more relaxing than driving rwd car. Both brands have DCT boxes so that's moot. About choice then, some Fellahs find it relaxing and in their "zone" knowing the rear will stay put like that in a Quattro, but then, others like that particular feeling of taming what could be a tail happy sled in the M3. It's preference, and thankfully there's a sled for all the different wants. As for the other stuff, I do find BMW generally more stoic, but I feel that places more of an emphasis the act of driving, and less on the chore of driving. I think Audi interiors are more inviting and getting into that realm of almost being too techie which goes more towards relieving the chore of driving; then again some Fellahs like all that and feel that those particular creature comforts are important. As for running costs, one is no better than the other; they're both expensive to maintain. Aaaaahhh, just blathering on now...

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Old 12-02-2012, 06:28 PM   #128
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I had a terrible time driving a Lexus however I haven't drove the new GS, I'll have to try it. The steering was so damn light, the window switches were utterly retarded, just lots of little things.
Hopefully they make a better motor for the GS cause its the same as my car.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:51 PM   #129
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Buy another Lexus. Fantastic cars.
Oh yeah this ES has been an awesome car for her and us. It's our travel car so it's got a good 150-160k on her which I know it's basically a Toyota which will last forever so I'm not too concerned for now.

We have looked at Lexus's like their new coupe and the IS350 or the ISF. Love them all. She just loves the styling of the A5.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:37 PM   #130
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Wife has an 09 IS, has been a solid ride, zero issues.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:48 PM   #131
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i went from an e46 to a b7 and am happy with it. i do miss my bimmer from time to time. i miss being able to kick the ass end out from time to time but i do like the AWD of the audi.

my only gripe with audi is EVERYTHING is a pain in the ass to replace when it breaks
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:58 PM   #132
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Oh yeah this ES has been an awesome car for her and us. It's our travel car so it's got a good 150-160k on her which I know it's basically a Toyota which will last forever so I'm not too concerned for now.

We have looked at Lexus's like their new coupe and the IS350 or the ISF. Love them all. She just loves the styling of the A5.
Have you driven an isf yet? That car is so sick and fun to drive.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:01 PM   #133
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No not yet! Her and I should go test drive one. Hopefully she will fall in love so I can drive it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:01 AM   #134
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I like the A1 sport but the rest are meh.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:13 AM   #135
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A local fanatic who has sold a couple cars on this site told me he preferred his (sold) E92 M3 to his current S5.
I guess it comes down to personal preference. I love the look, feel design and technology the S5 is packed with.

You want some sacreligious statements? I prefered my E39 to my E46 ///M. More comfortable seats, tons more torque, more room, V8 tone... The list goes on and on.

The S5 for me is paramount. I love the complete package, even if it is not as fast as the M3, or as large as the E39. It is the best compromise to me in all aspects.

I love the idea of buying a car I need to do nothing to to get what I want out of it. From the stereo, to the MMI system all the way to little things like lighting and wheels.

To me, it is everything in one car, no compromises.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:18 AM   #136
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:43 AM   #137
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The older ones are pretty bad, but they got their sh!t together on the newer ones, starting with the C6 A6, their MMI system is nicer than BMWs i-Drive too.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:54 AM   #138
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their MMI system is nicer than BMWs i-Drive too.
Not really. It's unintuitive, overly complicated, and pretty laggy (in my experience).
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:20 AM   #139
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Not really. It's unintuitive, overly complicated, and pretty laggy (in my experience).
Very true. My mom has an A6 and it's ridiculously difficult.
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I plan on making the switch to the new 2014 A3 Sportback (2.0T Quattro). There will be a Sedan version, but I think the Wagon will be more practical.





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