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Old 01-04-2013, 05:48 PM   #1
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Dealership vs indie on CCV

So today i brought in my car to Stevens Creek BMW to have a oil change because 69.99 oil change special, and i figured the free inspection could give me some more insight on problems in my car.

So when i got the phone call back, they said "you have two problems",
1: CCV (well i already knew that)
2: Valve cover gasket is leaking (wtf i just replaced it, unless they are going on the basis that there is a leak cause there is dried up oil, that i couldnt get off.)

Price to fix:
$1,300 for the ccv (asked for discount, they dropped it to $1,100 with a $200 dollar off $1000 service coupon).
$730 for the valve cover gasket WTF

Forget about the valve cover gasket, but I had a few independent shops give me quotes on replacing the whole ccv, and the best i got was 725.

I'd like to get some opinions on 725 vs 1100. Independent says the ccv will most likely have a mix of genuine and other brands while i will be sure that it will be genuine bmw parts at the dealership. Thanks for all the help
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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So today i brought in my car to Stevens Creek BMW to have a oil change because 69.99 oil change special, and i figured the free inspection could give me some more insight on problems in my car.

So when i got the phone call back, they said "you have two problems",
1: CCV (well i already knew that)
2: Valve cover gasket is leaking (wtf i just replaced it, unless they are going on the basis that there is a leak cause there is dried up oil, that i couldnt get off.)

Price to fix:
$1,300 for the ccv (asked for discount, they dropped it to $1,100 with a $200 dollar off $1000 service coupon).
$730 for the valve cover gasket WTF

Forget about the valve cover gasket, but I had a few independent shops give me quotes on replacing the whole ccv, and the best i got was 725.

I'd like to get some opinions on 725 vs 1100. Independent says the ccv will most likely have a mix of genuine and other brands while i will be sure that it will be genuine bmw parts at the dealership. Thanks for all the help
I'd do both jobs for $400 can't do it yourself??
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:52 PM   #3
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I'd do both jobs for $400 can't do it yourself??
CCV one is out of my league :< but i did do the Valve cover gaskets my self. Not understanding why they said its leaking but i checked myself a few days after and there was no fresh oil nor am i getting any oil smell through the vents like i did before.

Edit* I just went over the valve cover perimeter and there was no oil at all so

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CCV one is out of my league :< but i did do the Valve cover gaskets my self. Not understanding why they said its leaking but i checked myself a few days after and there was no fresh oil nor am i getting any oil smell through the vents like i did before.

Edit* I just went over the valve cover perimeter and there was no oil at all so
The CCV isn't that hard. Just go slow and have a couple beers handy. Take pictures of every part how it sits before you remove it. The hardest part of the CCV is the part that snakes INTO the front of the intake manifold. everything else is cake
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:14 PM   #6
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I can't stand Stevens Creek. I'd hold off on the VCG again and just keep an eye out. You're probably right that they saw oil residue and are simply trying to make some extra coin.

As far as the CCV, there's quite a few people in the South Bay that are on this forum that would likely do it for considerably less. You can very likely do it yourself by following the DIYs on here - it's just a bit time-consuming the first time around.
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the CCV job is not gonna be cheap for any mechanic.
because the ones who can do the job are most likely BMW specialists, and they don't charge Ford/Honda prices.

Best is to print some DIYs and bring to a cragislist mechanic in a warm garage when he isn't busy, have the guy read the guide and give u an estimate on the cost/time it takes.

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Old 01-04-2013, 07:26 PM   #9
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Dealers are stealers and do not do any better job than a qualified Indy and charge more. Many dealers these days only have tech that are under 30 years old and some are under 25, they mostly have NO experience.

I have had more problems at the dealer than anywhere with my E46 while it was under CPO and Maintenance coverage. They screwed up more than they fixed and they even messed the paint on the bumper up running into something in the lot!
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One indy shop (who specialize in bmw's) quoted me around $900 total for: ofhg, vanos line, ccv, vcg & oil change.

However, I was thinking about changing my upper manifold intake gaskets. So, taking the upper manifold intake off would make all of those other jobs easier (right? lol). Might as well do everything myself. All depends on what you want to do. I find it fun to work on our engines now after getting past the inital scared stage.
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CCV replacement, if you find a beter video let me know (this is 3 parts)




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There is no better CVV vid than what bavauto puts out.

Not perfect, but professional.
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There is no better CVV vid than what bavauto puts out.

Not perfect, but professional.
As far as most of the crap on Youtube goes, it is as close to perfect as you could get. Ya they throw in gay little ads for the special tools that you almost never need but they are clear, concise, and focus on the most important steps of a project. Not to bad for free.
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P.S the hose from the oil sperator to the plenum (the hose he is explaining at the beginning of video 3) snaps OR twists together, if you are struggling trying to twist it together just push it on until it clicks, Then turn it upwards.
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P.S the hose from the oil sperator to the plenum (the hose he is explaining at the beginning of video 3) snaps OR twists together, if you are struggling trying to twist it together just push it on until it clicks, Then turn it upwards.
I found it pretty easy to make the connection and twist.
Whole deal was easier than people make out.
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I found it pretty easy to make the connection and twist.
Whole deal was easier than people make out.
This. Drop the fuel breather device from its mount (disconnect the connector and hose if you want), which will give you the space and leverage you need to twist that hose into place with little to no effort.
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