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Old 12-11-2012, 11:35 AM   #41
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Deuteronomy 15:11
There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.

Leviticus 19:10
Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.

Any good Christian wouldn't mind see the Government carry out the will of God. Plus it guarantees them a spot in Heaven.
The first line means that if someone opens their hand to you asking for help, you must, regardless of your judgement of the person. Basically, charity without being judgmental. Someone asks for help, you give it.

Line two basically states that if you can do without something, let someone less fortunate have it.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with either of the two, seems like a nice and moral thing to do, regardless of religion.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:41 AM   #42
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The first line means that if someone opens their hand to you asking for help, you must, regardless of your judgement of the person. Basically, charity without being judgmental. Someone asks for help, you give it.
The Government is asking you to help. You, being the good Jew that you are, should oblige
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:43 AM   #43
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So no taxes destined for social programs for non-Christians then? Or for religious people who have religions that don't put a premium on charity?

Don't forget that the first book says god gave us free will to obey or disobey as we wished.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:51 AM   #44
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So no taxes destined for social programs for non-Christians then? Or for religious people who have religions that don't put a premium on charity?

Don't forget that the first book says god gave us free will to obey or disobey as we wished.
Good Christians won't want to disobey God. Just sayin.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #45
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That's why I give to charities of my choosing.

Jus' sayin'
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #46
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That's why I give to charities of my choosing.

Jus' sayin'
Way to rub it in everyone's face that you're going to super heaven. I'm hoping when I get there that I can use my Silver status on United to upgrade.
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Way to rub it in everyone's face that you're going to super heaven. I'm hoping when I get there that I can use my Silver status on United to upgrade.
If you have an Amex card I think it's worth triple halo points.
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If you have an Amex card I think it's worth triple halo points.
Yea but I think Sapphire has better travel rewards. I'm not paying the $450 annual fee on the Platinum, even if I already am pre-approved.
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The Government is asking you to help. You, being the good Jew that you are, should oblige
I give plenty of charity. The government is not charity.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:09 PM   #50
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Yea but I think Sapphire has better travel rewards. I'm not paying the $450 annual fee on the Platinum, even if I already am pre-approved.
I have a platinum. Saved me $600 on my trip that's coming to Montreal alone. Worth every penny.
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I have a platinum. Saved me $600 on my trip that's coming to Montreal alone. Worth every penny.
I neither spend nor travel enough to warrant the card. And from everything I have read from AMEX owners only chumps get the Platinum. The same rewards can be had with the Gold.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:55 PM   #52
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I neither spend nor travel enough to warrant the card. And from everything I have read from AMEX owners only chumps get the Platinum. The same rewards can be had with the Gold.
Not a single perk I just got would be available with gold. Not a single perk I use for airlines/airports is available with gold. Almost every perk that makes the platinum card "platinum" is not available with gold. As for your situation, fair enough. The card is only worth it if you travel.
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So what Amex card do you guys recommend for an Amex newbie who keeps getting their offers in the mail?
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So what Amex card do you guys recommend for an Amex newbie who keeps getting their offers in the mail?
Blue Preferred Cash perhaps.
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I have a platinum. Saved me $600 on my trip that's coming to Montreal alone. Worth every penny.
How so? I'm curious because I've been thinking about looking at an Amex card for travel because my BofA card blows big time.
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I booked through their travel service (just make my life easier.) With the platinum, I get an automatic upgrade to the next room category (in this case, the Fairmont gold floor), late check out, and since I am staying 6 nights, 2 nights are free. In vegas the platinum rate for a room in the Venetian was a good deal lower. In room breakfast, which normally costs $50 PER PERSON PER DAY (I stayed for a week) is paid for by Amex. Wife got $200 worth of spa treatments and crap as well. I just got back from Israel. Amex also eats $200 a year for airline incidental fees (overweight bags, extra bags, upgrades, onboard dining, phone calls, movies, etc.) On the Israel trip alone, I used all $200 of it. In a normal year, I buy back the annual fee at LEAST 3 times over. I save a fortune by renting cars and using Amex platinum insurance. They cover everything, for 41 days, for $10. If you get insurance from the car rental place, it's closer to $15....PER DAY. I also have platinum insurance for my luggage, which has a slew of perks on its own. Again, if you travel, it's worth every penny. If you don't, gold is plenty.
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Just to add, there are some perks I do not always use, and some I can't afford to. For instance, if you google Amex fine hotels and resorts, you will see that they guarantee $450 in perks with every stay..the catch? You need to be able to afford to stay at these hotels, which sometimes, I can't. Another perk is the companion ticket. If you buy a first class ticket, Amex gives you one for free for your friend. I can't afford to fly first class, but if I could, that's a pretty sizable perk.
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Just to add, there are some perks I do not always use, and some I can't afford to. For instance, if you google Amex fine hotels and resorts, you will see that they guarantee $450 in perks with every stay..the catch? You need to be able to afford to stay at these hotels, which sometimes, I can't. Another perk is the companion ticket. If you buy a first class ticket, Amex gives you one for free for your friend. I can't afford to fly first class, but if I could, that's a pretty sizable perk.
No one buys first class anymore. It's where airlines stick their Platinum, Gold and Silver people when they request upgrades


People who have the Platinum don't mind the annual fee because the annual fee is a drop in the bucket for them. Even if they didn't travel often, I'm sure they like the idea that they can take advantage of perks in the event they do.
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They already had a choice - work in a union shop, or work in a non-union shop.
Certain jobs you don't have that option. Things like railways and ports, you often get no option because of how strong the unions there are.

Ignoring the fact I just mentioned, nobody said they don't have that choice anymore.
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