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Old 12-12-2012, 02:05 PM   #61
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Most states do do that, but it's kind of a gamble. What if your kid doesn't want to go to college? What if they don't want to go to THAT college? It's potential money wasted. It's better to stick it into something more flexible like a 529.

Texas has a little more of an insular culture than the rest of the US. People from Tx want to go to UT, A&M, Baylor, UH, UNT, UTD - SOMETHING in the state so I think that's why it was so popular.

That's why it was such a surprise to me when I moved to ATL and NOBODY is from here - were all transplants.

Up in the NE the states are so close that the state lines are far more blurred than in Tx.
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You have done a pretty convincing job in proving that state schools are a great option. Are you saying that saving for a more expensive college education is a better option in your book?.
Who said anything about a private or Ivy League college? State schools still cost money. I had the luxury of paying for most of my college education...even at a state university. With that said I would rather save money for my kids to assist them while in college.

Also I'd like to point out that I received 30 college credits in public highschool while being dual enrolled. Guess what? It didn't cost me a dime. I essentially started college as a sophomore ahead of my peers. Made the overall cost of my college education cheaper.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:08 PM   #64
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There's nothing wrong with public schools, and there are many reasons to send your children to one. But don't discount the networking advantages open to those who go to some private schools, especially those that are populated with parents who are movers and shakers in society. Once you're out of school, many times success can be predicated on whom you know, not necessarily what you know. Just an excellent education may not be enough to propel your offspring into the halls of Congress, or C-level positions, or into the rarified air breathed by the Masters of the Universe multi-billionaire guys (it's almost always guys). And there are some people who are aiming for those goals for their kiddos...

PS: I went to both, a private Catholic Academy and two public high schools, before going on to college and graduate schools. No issues with either, and I agree that a private school will expose a child to much more of the world than a private enclave.
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Had a great convo with some people last night, wanted to take the pulse here.

I grew up in the richest county in Tx, so we had great Public schools. I think that for most people, if you live in a good safe area, and you have good public schools, why WOULDN'T you send your kids to public schools?

GF went to private school as Ohio had horrible public schools, I get that reasoning.

But Unless you want your kids to be taught some religious Dogma, sports reasons, and you live in an area with good schools..why wouldn't you just use the public system?
I went to the best public schools all my life (actually ranked top in the nation), and I have nothing but criticism for my education perhaps except for college.

Public K-12 education was probably 50% a waste of time. All that time spent learning about Aztecs and Mayans in social studies is a complete waste. Kids need to be learning about atomic theory, not some ancient culture that died out and made absurd predictions about the world ending. Science and math was ok, but almost every humanities course ended up being completely impractical.
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I went to the best public schools all my life (actually ranked top in the nation), and I have nothing but criticism for my education perhaps except for college.

Public K-12 education was probably 50% a waste of time. All that time spent learning about Aztecs and Mayans in social studies is a complete waste. Kids need to be learning about atomic theory, not some ancient culture that died out and made absurd predictions about the world ending. Science and math was ok, but almost every humanities course ended up being completely impractical.
I think it's more so for us to learn about our prior existence and achievements of mankind just to give us a sense of identity and what the human race has accomplished more than anything.
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I went to the best public schools all my life (actually ranked top in the nation), and I have nothing but criticism for my education perhaps except for college.

Public K-12 education was probably 50% a waste of time. All that time spent learning about Aztecs and Mayans in social studies is a complete waste. Kids need to be learning about atomic theory, not some ancient culture that died out and made absurd predictions about the world ending. Science and math was ok, but almost every humanities course ended up being completely impractical.
Are you really that thick?

I'm going to pull out a cliché, old quote for you:

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Are you really that thick?

I'm going to pull out a cliché, old quote for you:



History is quite necessary.

True, BUT I understand the point that he was trying to make as well. His point was probably articulated to callously, hence your response to it.

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History is required.

Your same thought process will be responsible for future generations never learning about the space race and WW2 eventually.

I think public school gives you the same education quality(in the good schools), with the added social conditioning that is absent in private.

To each their own I suppose, I'd just rather start funding a college fund then paying for private Primary education.
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the best results i have seen from friends were the ones that went to elementary and middle school private and a public high school.they carry on the good study tendencies from how they were brought up in the private school system and build character in high school.
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the best results i have seen from friends were the ones that went to elementary and middle school private and a public high school.they carry on the good study tendencies from how they were brought up in the private school system, build character in high school.
I like this approach.


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History is required.

Your same thought process will be responsible for future generations never learning about the space race and WW2 eventually.

I think public school gives you the same education quality(in the good schools), with the added social conditioning that is absent in private.

To each their own I suppose, I'd just rather start funding a college fund then paying for private Primary education.
I wouldn't say social conditioning is "absent" from private schools. I would venture to say it's just different. Both have their pro's and con's.
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the best results i have seen from friends were the ones that went to elementary and middle school private and a public high school.they carry on the good study tendencies from how they were brought up in the private school system, build character in high school.
Good approach. Some students are more dependent than others and this would be a good route for them.
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I wouldn't say social conditioning is "absent" from private schools. I would venture to say it's just different. Both have their pro's and con's.

The main thing I hear proponents of private education tout is connections...I never understood why everyone is so obsessed with making connections. To me, this is the exact same retarded line of thought that Frats use..I mean, I get it, its never the grades you make but instead the hands you shake...but I've been more professionally successful than just about all of my peers, even the ones that went to top rated schools and private school.

I did it on my own too, my dad didn't know a guy or anything like that..I'm completely self made so I guess I never saw the allure to connections..one of our voice engineers here went to GaTech and got this job because his mom knew the hiring manager...gf's dad was a partner at Deloitte and knew a guy so she started as a baby consultant and worked her way up.

I've got lots of connections now, but they have all been made by professional events, from bars, and from when I was getting published.

I did it all backwards though, I don't know anyone else who went the route I did so I guess I understand the "general advice"

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As a separate note, whatever a person decides with respect to public vs. private, it's better than home schooling (except for an extreme minority of cases)
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The main thing I hear proponents of private education tout is connections...I never understood why everyone is so obsessed with making connections. To me, this is the exact same retarded line of thought that Frats use..I mean, I get it, its never the grades you make but instead the hands you shake...but I've been more professionally successful than just about all of my peers, even the ones that went to top rated schools and private school.

I did it on my own too, my dad didn't know a guy or anything like that..I'm completely self made so I guess I never saw the allure to connections..one of our voice engineers here went to GaTech and got this job because his mom knew the hiring manager...gf's dad was a partner at Deloitte and knew a guy so she started as a baby consultant and worked her way up.

I've got lots of connections now, but they have all been made by professional events, from bars, and from when I was getting published.

I did it all backwards though, I don't know anyone else who went the route I did so I guess I understand the "general advice"
I went this route as well and started from scratch. Basically went after the connections I could see as beneficial and not just because.
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The main thing I hear proponents of private education tout is connections...I never understood why everyone is so obsessed with making connections. To me, this is the exact same retarded line of thought that Frats use..I mean, I get it, its never the grades you make but instead the hands you shake...but I've been more professionally successful than just about all of my peers, even the ones that went to top rated schools and private school.

I did it on my own too, my dad didn't know a guy or anything like that..I'm completely self made so I guess I never saw the allure to connections..one of our voice engineers here went to GaTech and got this job because his mom knew the hiring manager...gf's dad was a partner at Deloitte and knew a guy so she started as a baby consultant and worked her way up.

I've got lots of connections now, but they have all been made by professional events, from bars, and from when I was getting published.

I did it all backwards though, I don't know anyone else who went the route I did so I guess I understand the "general advice"
What do you base this magnificent conclusion on? I would love to hear what your co-workers think of you.
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As a separate note, whatever a person decides with respect to public vs. private, it's better than home schooling (except for an extreme minority of cases)
I've always found home scholars to be a bit off


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What do you base this magnificent conclusion on? I would love to hear what your co-workers think of you.
More Pay, More senior title, more direct reports, more time in industry, less years in age. When I got published it really set me apart from the rest(I became an Engineer IV of which we only have 3 other in ALL of engineering(ie; backbone design, WiFi, architecture etc) for the 3rd largest cable company in the US, equaling roughly 200 engineers here at HQ alone.

The youngest guy I work with is 3 years older than me, really sharp guy, and he's been in industry about as long as I have. Went to GaTech, really sharp guy, I just passed him on the ladder.

Difference is that in the engineering world, people respect talent and promote it promptly. The downfall is you become everyone's "go-to" guy for almost everything.

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