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Old 01-18-2013, 07:24 AM   #101
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Well, if E46s (at least M54 equipped ones) have no issues, then you CAN'T know what you are talking about since you have nothing there to learn on. So, sit down over in the corner, ****, and we'll call you when/if we need you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical yank bullshit artiste that got caught out and now waffles and blusters to divert attention. Get away from here and learn about oil boy!
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:00 AM   #102
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That's it? That's the best you can do? You still have not explained why M54s need such special oils. They have the same parts doing the same things that other engines do. My last seven vehicles have been consuming about a quart of M1 5W30 oil every 4-6000 miles. In the USA 5W30 and now 5W20 oils are THE most common weights. And generally speaking oil consumption just is not an issue. Almost everybody I know with a non-M Bimmer is happily using 5W30's of different brands with 3-5000 mile/qt use rates. Your sanctimonious attitude about oils ("I'm right and all of you are wrong") does not set well with me, and based on off line exchanges, a lot of others as well. Keep it up. Your preaching is almost a waste of bandwidth. But you will continue, and many of us will ignore it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:11 PM   #103
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That's it? That's the best you can do? You still have not explained why M54s need such special oils. They have the same parts doing the same things that other engines do. My last seven vehicles have been consuming about a quart of M1 5W30 oil every 4-6000 miles. In the USA 5W30 and now 5W20 oils are THE most common weights. And generally speaking oil consumption just is not an issue. Almost everybody I know with a non-M Bimmer is happily using 5W30's of different brands with 3-5000 mile/qt use rates. Your sanctimonious attitude about oils ("I'm right and all of you are wrong") does not set well with me, and based on off line exchanges, a lot of others as well. Keep it up. Your preaching is almost a waste of bandwidth. But you will continue, and many of us will ignore it.
Again, outside the U.S where CAFE doesn't exist an E46 does NOT use 5W30. Also M1 5W30 is a very thin 30W oil, no wonder you had high consumption. Oh and an E46 engine has a very high tendency to shear oil, hence the 3.5 HTHS requirement. So, stop using CAFE mandated oil viscosity and you won't have a problem.

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:38 PM   #104
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lets break up this arguing and post some pix of our BG MOA and BG related products.

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:43 PM   #105
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lets break up this arguing and post some pix of our BG MOA and BG related products.

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Old 01-18-2013, 07:21 PM   #106
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Again, outside the U.S where CAFE doesn't exist an E46 does NOT use 5W30. Also M1 5W30 is a very thin 30W oil, no wonder you had high consumption. Oh and an E46 engine has a very high tendency to shear oil, hence the 3.5 HTHS requirement. So, stop using CAFE mandated oil viscosity and you won't have a problem.
If that's the case, why are there so many 30-weight oils on the LL-01 list that aren't even available in the US?

Agreed M1 5w-30 specifically shouldn't be used
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:24 PM   #107
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Agreed M1 5w-30 specifically shouldn't be used
What are the reasons you say that? The manufacturer, the weight, or the rating?
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:06 PM   #108
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What are the reasons you say that? The manufacturer, the weight, or the rating?
BECAUSE IT'S TOO THIN, THE HTHS IS TO LOW ETC ETC. Spec oil in the U.S (LL01) is nearly a 40W, has a HTHS minimum of 3.5. M1 5W30 is a very thin 30W, has a HTHS of 2.9.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:18 PM   #109
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You're TerraPhantm's secretary now?
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:45 PM   #110
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You're TerraPhantm's secretary now?
Trying to get you to understand why M1 5W30 (and most XW30's) don't meet spec, but unfortunately it seems to be beyond you.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:34 PM   #111
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My answer would have been more or less the same as Sprintman's. I probably would've thrown in a quip about how an SAE rating is merely a range of specific viscosities, and M1 tends to design their oils to be towards the low-end of the range.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:57 AM   #112
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Well my car, which is a 2003 330i m54 was burning quite a bit of oil when I first bought it. Maybe a quart in 700-800 miles. Started using bg moa about 1000 miles ago, right after my last oil change and have not burned any oil so far. Maybe the bg is helping. But I also was driving, and revving to higher rpms before. I rarely shift over 3k rpms nowadays...so well see how this goes. If your burning oil I would say give the moa a shot since It's only 10 bucks a can. Good luck to all the oil burners out there.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:05 AM   #113
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My answer would have been more or less the same as Sprintman's. I probably would've thrown in a quip about how an SAE rating is merely a range of specific viscosities, and M1 tends to design their oils to be towards the low-end of the range.
More diplomatic than myself and spot on.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:45 PM   #114
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Those of you running B&G 44K... have you noticed any improvement in oil consumption?
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:19 AM   #115
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Those of you running B&G MOA... have you noticed any improvement in oil consumption?
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:25 AM   #116
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Those of you running B&G MOA... have you noticed any improvement in oil consumption?
Not me. Fill the tank, add a quart of oil. Almost finished recommissioning a 72 Pantera, bought an E36 to race it will require a "build", a master bathroom stripped out and being redone, and a few more money jobs on 30s and 36s. The Touring will get new valve seals and rings and be sold. For now, oil is the cheap fix.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:09 AM   #117
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Skip the valve seals and rings, do not know anyone that has replaced these on the E46.

Change the CCV system, make sure the engine temps is correct and try this below. A lot cheaper, easier and quicker than valve seals and rings on something you plan on selling!
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:45 AM   #118
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CCV was the first thing down. It was NOT clogged up, and now change after new parts. Tried different oils. A quart every 250 miles certainly seems to be a mechanical problem. M54 blocks had their share of problems and this is one !!
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:51 AM   #119
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Did you by chance remove the dipstick tube and clean out the double wall inside the tube?

Have you also verified the proper engine operating temperature?

Have you performed an exhaust back pressure test as well?

Suggest you check the 3rd link below in my signature.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:53 AM   #120
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Did you by chance remove the dipstick tube and clean out the double wall inside the tube?

Have you also verified the proper engine operating temperature?

Suggest you check the 3rd link below in my signature.
Yes, I did. And Yes, I have.
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