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Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

View Poll Results: should firearms be banned/regulated?
Yes 11 6.51%
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There should be more regulations but not taken away completely 36 21.30%
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:31 PM   #261
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Okay - many people own hand guns which will never get banned.

Are u suggesting I need an assault rifle to protect myself?
You should be free to choose to protect yourself with whatever you like, an axe, an AR15, or an opinion. The beauty of freedom.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:48 PM   #262
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of course you dont, a basic semi automatic rifle would do just fine.
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You should be free to choose to protect yourself with whatever you like, an axe, an AR15, or an opinion. The beauty of freedom.
Okay - btw I've shot an ar15 in Vegas with a red dot sight.

While the gun was insanely easy to operate and very little kick I don't see real world practicality.

Do people have these ready to go under their bed?

Hand gun - sure.

Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:52 PM   #264
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Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
Depends, does your state have castle doctrine or not? If so, you can can use deadly force within the law.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:52 PM   #265
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Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

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depends on the state law. in texas you can shoot someone robbing your neighbors house.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:53 PM   #266
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Okay - btw I've shot an ar15 in Vegas with a red dot sight.

While the gun was insanely easy to operate and very little kick I don't see real world practicality.

Do people have these ready to go under their bed?

Hand gun - sure.

Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
yep. I'll never see my gun again, and will likely spend a night in holding but California's castle law is pretty solid.

As long as there is evidence of forced entry
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:55 PM   #267
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yep. I'll never see my gun again, and will likely spend a night in holding but California's castle law is pretty solid.

As long as there is evidence of forced entry
why??evidence? wouldnt that be returned when the case goes to court?
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Depends, does your state have castle doctrine or not? If so, you can can use deadly force within the law.
That's a broad brush...
Every state is different, and very few justify DF for property

Just because you CAN and would be justified to the letter of the law doesn't mean the justice system and some hippy jurors won't put you behind bars for life.

My mentality is to learn, understand and comprehend the law.
That's being said, I don't learn what's legal and then do that.
Frankly, I don't care what the law says in regards to self defense. If I feel I need to use it, I will if its the last and most appropriate option at the time.
If the law agrees with me, cool.
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I also think that people get hung up on the word "assault." Its a rifle yes, but I think many would not make such a big deal if it wasn't called an assault rifle.
But they're not called assault rifles. The only ones calling AR-15's "assault rifles" are the media and the "thing that goes up" politicians. When was a true assault rifle last used in a shooting? The only one that comes to mind was that North Hollywood bank robbery 15 years ago - and those were illegally modified AK's - they weren't even real assault rifles.
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What does the average person need a semi auto rifle for? Bolt action sure, But when people around here go hunting the take along THREE bullets thats it, and i live in farm areas where you need to shoot coyetes ect on a daily basis and yet no one i know owns or needs any kind of Semi auto rifle, Explain to me why you would need a Semi auto rifle or Pistol, For protection? Please ive never been in a situation where i have needed a Gun of any sorts to protect myself
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But they're not called assault rifles. The only ones calling AR-15's "assault rifles" are the media and the "thing that goes up" politicians. When was a true assault rifle last used in a shooting? The only one that comes to mind was that North Hollywood bank robbery 15 years ago - and those were illegally modified AK's - they weren't even real assault rifles.
If memory serves me correctly... Only 2 people have ever been killed by a true assault weapon. 1 of the murders was committed by an out of control cop


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depends on the state law. in texas you can shoot someone robbing your neighbors house.
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yep. I'll never see my gun again, and will likely spend a night in holding but California's castle law is pretty solid.

As long as there is evidence of forced entry
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That's a broad brush...
Every state is different, and very few justify DF for property

Just because you CAN and would be justified to the letter of the law doesn't mean the justice system and some hippy jurors won't put you behind bars for life.

My mentality is to learn, understand and comprehend the law.
That's being said, I don't learn what's legal and then do that.
Frankly, I don't care what the law says in regards to self defense. If I feel I need to use it, I will if its the last and most appropriate option at the time.
If the law agrees with me, cool.
bro why you such a bad a$$? jk

okay so an assault weapons ban is an infringement to general gun rights.

So there is no compromise on this issue?

again where were you on the patriot act? where were all of you guys?

that's infringement on our rights IMO way more important than just assault weapons.

either way the constitution is ever evolving. Disagree? women weren't even able to vote at some point.

again nobody will take guns away.

I'll stand by my original statement. we need more sex. sex on tv etc. people are too conservative.
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You know my views about guns. I am wondering if anyone here can defend the idea of citizens being about to buy and possess assault rifles in light of the latest in an unending string of tragedies involving firearms?
Im sure its been pointed out before but assault rifles are never used in crimes. They are already regulated by the NFA laws and are very very expensive. The cheapest POS machinegun will cost about $4k right now, a assault rifle will cost a minimum of $14k and up... They are very costly and require a shitload of paperwork and background checks.

I own a couple of machine guns, I own beltfeds, I've got enough firepower to stock a pretty good sized militia unit. Do you know why I do this? Why I NEED these things????

Cause they make me all warm and fuzzy inside.




Fact is its my right.... With out my guns I'm just as weak as you are, one step away from being rounded up and thrown in to a camp.

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What does the average person need a semi auto rifle for? Bolt action sure, But when people around here go hunting the take along THREE bullets thats it, and i live in farm areas where you need to shoot coyetes ect on a daily basis and yet no one i know owns or needs any kind of Semi auto rifle, Explain to me why you would need a Semi auto rifle or Pistol, For protection? Please ive never been in a situation where i have needed a Gun of any sorts to protect myself
Why does your car need a supercharger? Where I live the speed limit is 65 and my NA 325i gets to that speed just fine. Explain to me why you need a supercharged 330i? Please, I've never been in a situation where I have needed more than 184 hp

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What does the average person need a semi auto rifle for? Bolt action sure, But when people around here go hunting the take along THREE bullets thats it, and i live in farm areas where you need to shoot coyetes ect on a daily basis and yet no one i know owns or needs any kind of Semi auto rifle, Explain to me why you would need a Semi auto rifle or Pistol, For protection? Please ive never been in a situation where i have needed a Gun of any sorts to protect myself
By your reasoning, I should go around telling people they don't need airbags in their cars since I've never had a situation where I've needed mine.
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Okay - btw I've shot an ar15 in Vegas with a red dot sight.

While the gun was insanely easy to operate and very little kick I don't see real world practicality.

Do people have these ready to go under their bed?

Hand gun - sure.

Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
I don't own an AR because I don't have a safe large enough to store it (I have a child) and I don't have the room for a large safe. I personally don't need it, and might not get it. I'd spend the money on car parts or a watch instead. However, some people like it, for their hobby or whatever reason. I don't see a problem with someone owning it.
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Okay - btw I've shot an ar15 in Vegas with a red dot sight.

While the gun was insanely easy to operate and very little kick I don't see real world practicality.

Do people have these ready to go under their bed?

Hand gun - sure.

Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
Depends on many factors which can't really be discussed here.
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Okay - btw I've shot an ar15 in Vegas with a red dot sight.

While the gun was insanely easy to operate and very little kick I don't see real world practicality.

Do people have these ready to go under their bed?

Hand gun - sure.

Btw say someone is in your house taking your Xbox 360 and you tell him to drop it and he won't . He doesn't have a weapon just taking your beloved Xbox.

Can you shoot him within law?
Yes, we do keep them ready but under the bed takes to long.

As for killing somebody over a xbox, depends on the state your in...In states that have the castle doctern then yes....you can stand your ground. Probably be best if they get found with a pistol or something next to the body though.

You have to ask yourself, if somebody breaks in tonight....what are you going to do? Will you be able to fight him until the threat stops? That may even include killing him with your bare hands. He may be smaller, he may be a kick boxer for all you know....You may get your scrawney ass dragged down to the street and made to bite the curb. You dont know who will break in, when, or what type of weapons that they will have. It's best to have a equalizer at your disposal even if you never have to use it.

This world's not easy, You may have to make difficult choices....I dont want to but someday I may have to take a life. I will tell you, with my last dieing breath I will defend my home and family. I'll take every advantage I can when it comes to a potential threat.
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Im sure its been pointed out before but assault rifles are never used in crimes. They are already regulated by the NFA laws and are very very expensive. The cheapest POS machinegun will cost about $4k right now, a assault rifle will cost a minimum of $14k and up... They are very costly and require a shitload of paperwork and background checks.

I own a couple of machine guns, I own beltfeds, I've got enough firepower to stock a pretty good sized militia unit. Do you know why I do this? Why I NEED these things????

Cause they make me all warm and fuzzy inside.




Fact is its my right.... With out my guns I'm just as weak as you are, one step away from being rounded up and thrown in to a camp.

Gun owners, vs liberals..... It'd be the worlds shortest civil war
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By your reasoning, I should go around telling people they don't need airbags in their cars since I've never had a situation where I've needed mine.
They arent in the same world here since we are talking about something designed to hurt you vs a safety device
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