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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 02-17-2015, 01:50 PM   #1
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Frustrated on 2" snow

frustrated with the traction on 2" snow.

Rear tires snow tires.
Front all season tires.

On a middle steep, not very steep street, had to come to a halt, open garage door, 330 xi started spinning.

Turned off DSC as it kept on interfering.

330xi kept on spinning.

Shifted into 2nd gear and was able to move.

I am disappointed, expected better traction on snow.

How to make 330xi grip more on snow:
1- install snow tires on front axle
2- Limited slip differential into rear axle.

Will these be enough to have decent grip on snow?
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:56 PM   #2
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With only RWD I am able to plow through 8"+ of snow. You need better tires. Try Nokian Hakkapeliittas inflated to 20psi.
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:22 PM   #3
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the AWD is pretty much useless without dsc

I'm on all-seasons all around and I have no issues with 3-4" of heavy snow (maybe 6" of powder). Just go slow and let the DSC do it's job.
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:29 PM   #4
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With only RWD I am able to plow through 8"+ of snow. You need better tires. Try Nokian Hakkapeliittas inflated to 20psi.

This. I used to rock through snow storms like a boss. Snow tires on 4 corners. RWD
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:32 PM   #5
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thank you all.

what brand of snow tires do you run?
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Old 02-17-2015, 04:38 PM   #6
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Nokian Hakkapeliitta. But the reality is as long as you run a skinny snow tire of any brand and keep the pressures low, you're gonna get good traction. Don't go wider than 205 and run small wheels with tall sidewalls. If you can run 15's on your car and want the utmost of snow capabilities, go with 195-65/15. That's roughly the size WRC cars run on snow stages, so that should make it clear that you want to cut through the snow, not float on top of it. And keep tire pressures low, the soft sidewall helps shed snow that has packed into the tread and allows the tire to conform to irregularities instead of getting hung up on them.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:25 PM   #7
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Civic has Hankook iPike tires 175/70R13. Used it to deliver even in snowstorms. On unplowed streets with a good 8"+ of snow it did a fantastic job, though I broke a few bumper clips. Even with a worn rear engine mount and tons of wheel hop, it was awesome.
BMW has Bridgestone Blizzaks 195/60R16. Again no issues. Running a narrower tire does help. I don't take it out on heavy snow days. But I have driven it with a broken rear spring, bald all seasons, in a good 1" of snow that came out of nowhere. DSC did it's job and got me moving without any issue.

You really do not need an LSD. If you can't get around, maybe you should improve your abilities as a driver than shift blame to the car.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:30 PM   #8
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Nokian Hakkapeliitta. But the reality is as long as you run a skinny snow tire of any brand and keep the pressures low, you're gonna get good traction. Don't go wider than 205 and run small wheels with tall sidewalls. If you can run 15's on your car and want the utmost of snow capabilities, go with 195-65/15. That's roughly the size WRC cars run on snow stages, so that should make it clear that you want to cut through the snow, not float on top of it. And keep tire pressures low, the soft sidewall helps shed snow that has packed into the tread and allows the tire to conform to irregularities instead of getting hung up on them.
Lol. I run 235 hakkapeliittas and can't get stuck. Unstudded 205 tires are garbage on ice. I recommend 205 studded or 225 unstudded, depending on climate of course.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:54 PM   #9
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The xi transfer case is essentially an open differential. So if you have no traction in the front, the front wheels are going to spin while the rears are stationary. DSC can help to an extent, but as you noticed, it also cuts out a huge amount of power.

Run 4 snow tires all around
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:29 AM   #10
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did not have too many winter tire choices.

Installed 4 Michelin Alpine 5 tires.

Woww, what a difference.

Chose a very steep hill and 330xi shed with Alpine 5 tires went like a tank.

Braking improved a lot.

DSC does not interfere as much as it did on previous tires (summer front/snow rear tires)

ABS does not come on as early as it did on previous tires.

Thank you all for advising winter tires.

I will soon add a LSD into rear differential.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:15 AM   #11
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Tires make all the difference. The xi has Nokians on the rear and Dunlop M3's in the front and my e36 has Blizzaks on the rear and Continental Extreme Contact DWS on the front and both cars are nearly unstoppable.
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Old 02-19-2015, 02:50 PM   #12
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Tested Michelin Alpine 5 tires on 5"-6" snow. No issues, it does grip and does stop well.
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Old 02-19-2015, 03:01 PM   #13
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Yep, snow tires make ALL the difference. I run the Yokohama iceGUARD iG52c on one of my cars, Snow Traction, Snow Traction, Snow Traction.....

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Old 02-24-2015, 10:44 AM   #14
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I've got Yokohama all-season tires and this car is a BEAST even in deep snow. Plowed right through about 6 inches of hard-pack the last few days with no troubles.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:35 AM   #15
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+1 on good snow tires. I'm recommending from a mountainous snowy place. It's all the difference in the world having good clean out that a snow tire gives you. If you're in deep snow or a steep hill, there is a world of difference between "all season" and dedicated snow tires. Studs are a plus for packed snow/ice (nothing will really help you on black ice) but add cost and noise.
Let us know how the LSD works out? Might be redundant with the DSC system although I had one on my old E36 and loved it on gravel/dirt and snow.
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Old 03-03-2015, 03:36 PM   #16
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I used to run studded HAKKA's. Kubica is right...Nothing like 'em..nothin'!. We only get ice at night so most folks in the Sierra's dont stud up'.

I used to 'go out and play in the snow'. Most people hide from blizzards. Up here it's my favorite sport.

Now I run TOYO's. Good tire. Hankooks iPikes aren't bad either. Reasonably priced. Any REAL SNOW TIRE and you should be mowin' through sh*t
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:50 PM   #17
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Recently picked up an E70 X5 and it has Continental ExtremeContact DWS Ultra High Performance All Season Tires on it.

I have no other tire comparison on this vehicle, but we have had 5-6 inches of snow, slush and ice recently and this thing has been just busting through everything I have been throwing at it.

These tire are pretty crazy. They are quiet, seem to grip on dry, wet and in snow. They actually have DWS or an S in the tread pattern and when the letters are worn down they do not recommend running them in the Snow but they are still good for Dry and Wet conditions.

I would consider running these on other cars, maybe even just RWD as well.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....emeContact+DWS

But tires do make a big difference.
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