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Old 11-20-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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NYC Smoking Age Officially Raised To 21

Dumb. You're considered an adult at 18, yet can't make the decision to smoke? What's more, if "88% of adult smokers began smoking before the age of 18"; clearly, the age restrictions for purchasing aren't effective in the first place. (I don't smoke, fwiw)


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Teenagers will soon be prohibited from buying cigarettes in NYC, as part of a new bill that Mayor Bloomberg signed into law today. The change goes into effect in 180 days, raising the minimum age on purchases of certain tobacco products and electronic cigarettes from 18 to 21. This makes NYC the first major city in America to raise the minimum age on tobacco purchases up to 21. Thanks de Blasio Councilmember James Gennaro! From our report when the bill passed in October:

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Roughly 20,000 New York City high school students currently smoke. According to the office of the Surgeon General, 88% of adult smokers began smoking before the age of 18, and 90% of those who purchase cigarettes for minors are between the ages of 18 and 20.
"Imagine a law intended to define 18 to 20 year olds as stupid," smokers' rights advocate Audrey Silk posits in a press release. "Well that's what the NYC Council has on tap."

"The point of this bill has always been to prevent young people from smoking, because the data shows that the younger you start smoking, the harder it is to quit," said Paul Leonard, a spokesman for councilmember Gennaro.
As for e-cigarettes being covered under the bill, Leonard says, "E-cigarettes are an untested and addictive product. They contain nicotine. E-cig usage has more than doubled in the last year for high school students, so it was a no brainer to add e-cigarettes to the bill."
But Jim Calvin, president of the New York Association of Convenience Stores, asks the AP, "What are you really accomplishing? It's not like they are going to quit smoking. Why? Because there are so many other places they can buy cigarettes. Every 18-year-old who walks out of a convenience store is just going to go to the guy in the white van on the corner." We don't know where Calvin grew up, but in our experience you didn't want to go anywhere NEAR that dude's white van.

Another bill signed into law today will keep the price of tobacco in NYC high by prohibiting coupons and other discounts and setting a minimum cigarette price of $10.50 per pack. "It is our belief—and our hope—that the City’s smoke-free efforts will serve as models for other jurisdictions in the weeks, months and years to come," Councilmember Gennaro and Speaker Christine Quinn said in a joint statement brimming with faith in our city's eagle-eyed bodega clerks.

http://gothamist.com/2013/11/19/nyc_...y_raised_t.php
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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Doesn't bother me, I've never smoked and never will.


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Too bad for young hooked 18 to 20 yrs old that were allowed to smoke and now can't.
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Doesn't bother me, I've never smoked and never will.
That's irrelevant. I think what's concerning the precedent it may set.

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Too bad for young hooked 18 to 20 yrs old that were allowed to smoke and now can't.
"88% of adult smokers began smoking before the age of 18"

I don't think they'll have a problem getting their cigs.
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Good. Laws like this should be everywhere. Thanks Bloomberg
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Let people sort themselves out.
Pretty much.

I think the drinking age should be 18. You can go die for your country, yet can't buy a beer? Stupid.
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That's irrelevant. I think what's concerning the precedent it may set.



"88% of adult smokers began smoking before the age of 18"

I don't think they'll have a problem getting their cigs.
You honestly don't think some of these kids would have started when it was legal and because of this are not smokers?

I love anti smoking laws. There should never be a time where I should have to breath that bullsh1t in because someone is too oblivious to realize the direction of the wind.
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You honestly don't think some of these kids would have started when it was legal and because of this are not smokers?
Not sure what you're saying here, but the stat. I posted demonstrates that the age limitations aren't effective. If you want to get a hold of some cigarettes, you'll likely be able to--whether you're 16, 18, or whatever. And it doesn't make sense to tell an 18 year old that "you're an adult in the eyes if the law, yet can't make a decision as to what you want to do with your body."

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There should never be a time where I should have to breath that bullsh1t in because someone is too oblivious to realize the direction of the wind.
Sure, but that's a separate discussion.
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Not sure what you're saying here, but the stat. I posted demonstrates that the age limitations aren't effective. If you want to get a hold of some cigarettes, you'll likely be able to--whether you're 16, 18, or whatever. And it doesn't make sense to tell an 18 year old that "you're an adult in the eyes if the law, yet can't make a decision as to what you want to do with your body."



Sure, but that's a separate discussion.
what I'm saying is that since it was illegal less people did it. We know that true of everything. More people will do something legal than illegal. So that being said, less people got started when they were say 16. When they turned 18 and could do it they may have been a little more informed and decided it was stupid. Now, at 21 they are even more aware.
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Sorry, I don't like cigarette smell on my clothes. It smells like ass. You can inhale as many cigarettes as you want, just not around me.
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