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Old 12-22-2012, 10:34 AM   #21
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And the media got her name wrong?! That's unthinkable! /sarcasm
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:36 AM   #22
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Next thing they will "regulate" will be the Internet. Take away people's ability to revolt against oppressive government, then eliminate the sharing of information for communication, organizing, and becoming aware of reality(as opposed to media).

Really radical and I pray it never happens but I think it is completely realistic to have a possibility of a more oppressed and worse off America. Like worse than China.
Wake up, all of those things are already happening and getting worse by the day. I am not just talking about the recent rise with interests in gun control, but look around and see what kind of legislation and agendas are being pushed, legal cases taking precedence, backroom deals going on, and how there is so little transparency and more documents classified all in the name of "national security" than ever before in the country's entire history. The People have the right to know. The founding fathers have already turned in their graves. Civil liberties have eroded more than ever in the past decade and grave violations of the Constitution are being carried out daily. The sad part is that 'we the people' seem to allow these things to happen and the principles that this country once stood for is no longer present. This government is quick to criticize other countries' laws and practices, yet comes right back and does the same to oppress their own people...maybe even worse, but not so much in an overt way that the majority would even notice. There is much of do as I say and not as I do. Don't be surprised if you see the country come full circle or repeat quite a bit of history. All of those who fought, bled, and died for the Constitution will be in vain. There is much freedom that the people take for granted in this country.

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May the victims of Sandy Hook tragedy rest in peace and God bless their souls.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:34 AM   #23
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Gut says its a hoax like everything else but mind can't imagine how they'd pull it off. This seems more difficult to pull off than 9/11. There is definitely a huge agenda being pushed by the media/"left"-politics. /tinfoil
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First guy is mormon and they teach to be happy in times of pain. There was a thread about it.


This thread is Fvcking pathetic. Do you people REALLY think that a government who is the model of inefficiency is actually capable of something like this? Get real. Gun sales have skyrocketed in the past week and there are more AR-15s in the hands of citizens than ever. If this was all part of some grand scheme to curtail rights and keep citizens powerless then it has failed with flying colors.
First open your mind up to the possibility. Then look over everything and decide for yourself. My main question is why do you think this is so impossible?

Do you believe these "revolutions" in the Middle East are real? That Syria is actually a popular uprising? Do you really think we need trapwire to combat "terrorism"? The federal government needs control over the Internet? The list goes on and on with things our inefficient government has done that we know about, what about the list that's blacked out. Like I said, it may or may not be true, but if you at least open your mind to the possibility then you can better decide for yourself.
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I'm very open to the possibility, and there's no doubt in my mind they're responsible for small false flags here and there but something of this scale is out of the question. I'm sure someone on here knows a family who lost a child, or knows someone in the town. These people are real, the children that died are real. It's like people saying that the flight that went down in PA on 9/11 was fake, yet they can't explain what happened to the people that were on that flight.
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I'm very open to the possibility, and there's no doubt in my mind they're responsible for small false flags here and there but something of this scale is out of the question. I'm sure someone on here knows a family who lost a child, or knows someone in the town. These people are real, the children that died are real. It's like people saying that the flight that went down in PA on 9/11 was fake, yet they can't explain what happened to the people that were on that flight.
Yes that is where I had trouble as well, all the people killed and effected were real, the school and community were real. But that doesn't really eliminate anything. Those killed and effected at Pearl Harbor were real people but the government let it happen so they could enter the war. It just seems really odd, I feel like everyday since the shooting there has been a "possible shooter at x" or "kid with a gun at school" and so on played by the media. Whether the actual shooting was real or not, the way this has been handled and talked about seems very ulterior. Ever since Obamas obvious bullshit tears I have questioned what is going on.

So not necessarily fake as in it didn't happen, but fake as in orchestrated or manipulated for political purposes.
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Yes, my friend's mom picked up "fake" dead bodies of children. I'll let her know so she can sleep better tonight.. Thank you Thank you for showing us the way!!!

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they arent saying that the shootings werent real because they obviously were. they are alluding to government involvement similar to their suspected involvement in 9/11. whether being responsible for the instances directly or using them as a platform to push agendas. its not crazy to think they were involved

you cant tell me that the government would never hurt innocent people to achieve what they want because they have already proved time and time again that they will.
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I don't think what happened was faked. I don't think for one second that someone would falsify the deaths of children this young. It is possible that some of the persons interviewed are actors, maybe to get better tv, but not the act itself. Maybe even some of the details were faked like weapons used, etc, but not the children's deaths.
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The tragedy happened.

The news corporations hire people to make it seem like they were there to up the ratings.
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Yes that is where I had trouble as well, all the people killed and effected were real, the school and community were real. But that doesn't really eliminate anything. Those killed and effected at Pearl Harbor were real people but the government let it happen so they could enter the war. It just seems really odd, I feel like everyday since the shooting there has been a "possible shooter at x" or "kid with a gun at school" and so on played by the media. Whether the actual shooting was real or not, the way this has been handled and talked about seems very ulterior. Ever since Obamas obvious bullshit tears I have questioned what is going on.

So not necessarily fake as in it didn't happen, but fake as in orchestrated or manipulated for political purposes.
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There's a lot of evidence (or coincidence) that shows that Eisenhower and FDR knew about the impending attack and allowed it to happen so that they could get the population behind the war effort.
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thats the same theory behind 9/11.
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smoke that dmt you always talk about and open that mind of yours

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Guys it was all a hoax the little kids were actually midget actors paid by the government!!
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Crap you just blew this story apart.
Anything can be a conspiracy if you think about it enough and have an imagination. Oh you also have to be a little stupid
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Crap you just blew this story apart.
Anything can be a conspiracy if you think about it enough and have an imagination. Oh you also have to be a little stupid
So you are stupid if you think beyond the story you have been told to believe? So what you are saying is that you let other people do the thinking for you.
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Yeah you're right no one, including myself, knows the families involved. They haven't lived in the area for years. They were raised in a box until they became of age. They were born just for this event.
I dont care what the media says about all the bs they think. An event occurred in a community. If you refuse to believe that or think that it was staged you're a complete and utter moron.
There's these kinds of people that come out and call GOV'T DID IT its all a lie! Whenever a major event happens.
The same could be said when the store runs out of green beans. The govt took them away! They're designing chemicals to control my brain and when the beans return they will contain said chemicals! It's all a conspiracy.
Anything can be a conspiracy if you twist it enough.
Have fun wearing your foil hat idiots.
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Drex, what're your thoughts on chemtrails?

I think most of you conspirators are using a slippery slope argument, suggesting that what happened in pearl harbor means rejected plans like Operation Northwood are a possibility.
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