E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Everything Else > The Off-Topic > Political Talk

Political Talk
You may discuss anything regarding politics in this forum ONLY. If you cannot respect others opinions, your access to this forum will be removed.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-02-2013, 09:38 AM   #101
Raymond42262
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The South
Posts: 453
My Ride: Is German
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammk View Post
May I politely remind everyone that Obama might have taken a vacation but he and the Senate worked through the day and the night to get something out for Congress to review before midnight, while Congress had long broken up. In fact, Boehner and Co. are still sitting on their hands as we speak..
I would like to politely point out to you that the agreement they made last night is only valid for 2 months until we run out of money. Then they start all over again unless they want to raise the debt ceiling, which I read on one occasion that they want it to go up by another 3.9 TN.


But Obama is not around to take your calls. He is headed back to Hawaii. He left last night. The trip on Air Force One will take 18 hours.

While you boast about the political success of your illegal immigrant and illegally seated POTUS, you and I will be paying an average of $1635 more in taxes this year.

And Congress still got a pay raise.

Happy New Year
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...ost-3-million/
__________________
"The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for."....Joseph Addison
--------------------

Last edited by Raymond42262; 01-02-2013 at 09:41 AM.
Raymond42262 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 09:41 AM   #102
casino is no lie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: CDT
Posts: 76
My Ride: M54B30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond42262 View Post
While you boast about the political success of your illegal immigrant and illegally seated POTUS...
You forget to mention he's a secret Muslim.
__________________
casino is no lie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 09:42 AM   #103
Raymond42262
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The South
Posts: 453
My Ride: Is German
Quote:
Originally Posted by casino is no lie View Post
You forget to mention he's a secret Muslim.
Thank you.
__________________
"The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for."....Joseph Addison
--------------------
Raymond42262 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 03:47 PM   #104
MDydinanM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Coast
Posts: 754
My Ride: is a ///M
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond42262 View Post
and illegally seated POTUS, you and I will be paying an average of $1635 more in taxes this year.

And Congress still got a pay raise.

Happy New Year
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...ost-3-million/
Illegally seated POTUS? do explain... and I hope it isn't birther nonsense. Last time I checked he was voted into office...twice.

Secondly, I don't mind taxes being raised if it pays off the deficit. From what I understand, both party's plans had tax raises. Now they need to reign in Govt spending.
__________________

Last edited by MDydinanM; 01-02-2013 at 06:56 PM.
MDydinanM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #105
bimmerfan08
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 4,890
My Ride: Phoenix Yellow M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdyaman View Post
Illegally seated POTUS? do explain... and I hope it isn't birther nonsense. Last time I checked he was voted into office...twice.

Secondly, I don't mind taxes being raised if it pays off the defect. From what I understand, both party's plans had tax raises. Now they need to reign in Govt spending.
I'm worried about the government spending. Taxes will be raised...great, now on to the main course...trimming that government fat. I have a feeling they won't be serious about it and will brush it under the rug over time hoping they can get away with it.
__________________
"Economics cannot answer such normative or prescriptive questions about how much of our market incomes, if any, should be transferred to poor families. This is a political question that can only be answered at the ballot box, or in some countries, at the point of a gun."

Last edited by bimmerfan08; 01-02-2013 at 04:17 PM.
bimmerfan08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 04:27 PM   #106
MDydinanM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Coast
Posts: 754
My Ride: is a ///M
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 View Post
I'm worried about the government spending. Taxes will be raised...great, now on to the main course...trimming that government fat. I have a feeling they won't be serious about it and will brush it under the rug over time hoping they can get away with it.
Yep, agree
__________________
MDydinanM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 06:48 PM   #107
sammk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 378
My Ride: Bone-stock E92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond42262 View Post
I would like to politely point out to you that the agreement they made last night is only valid for 2 months until we run out of money. Then they start all over again unless they want to raise the debt ceiling, which I read on one occasion that they want it to go up by another 3.9 TN.


But Obama is not around to take your calls. He is headed back to Hawaii. He left last night. The trip on Air Force One will take 18 hours.

While you boast about the political success of your illegal immigrant and illegally seated POTUS, you and I will be paying an average of $1635 more in taxes this year.

And Congress still got a pay raise.

Happy New Year
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...ost-3-million/
Agreed about kicking the can down the road. The debt ceiling is the real debate that's yet to happen in an effective manner with sustainable solutions. However, it's better than nothing because without the deal passed before the 1st, millions of middle and lower income people would have automatically started to pay higher taxes and would have initiated a slow double-dip recession.

Just look at how the stock market reacted today - if anyone had any common sense, they would have made a small windfall in a matter of seconds this morning.

So you can't blame Obama and the Senate for passing something in spite of Congress.

The President was not back from his vacation, he was merely taking a break from a vacation to look after urgent business. Which reiterates what I've said before - as POTUS, you never get to take a vacation and chill out on a beach like the Hollywood types. You're working most if not all the time. You're merely in a different place with different people, but you're still working..

The rest of your post is birther nonsense which indicates that your intellectual development is on par with an adult hamster, which I don't have time to respond to..
__________________


E92 convert. BMW Fanatic.
sammk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 07:31 PM   #108
Raymond42262
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The South
Posts: 453
My Ride: Is German
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammk View Post
Agreed about kicking the can down the road. The debt ceiling is the real debate that's yet to happen in an effective manner with sustainable solutions. However, it's better than nothing because without the deal passed before the 1st, millions of middle and lower income people would have automatically started to pay higher taxes and would have initiated a slow double-dip recession.

Just look at how the stock market reacted today - if anyone had any common sense, they would have made a small windfall in a matter of seconds this morning.

So you can't blame Obama and the Senate for passing something in spite of Congress.

The President was not back from his vacation, he was merely taking a break from a vacation to look after urgent business. Which reiterates what I've said before - as POTUS, you never get to take a vacation and chill out on a beach like the Hollywood types. You're working most if not all the time. You're merely in a different place with different people, but you're still working.

This is true. But vacationing in Hawaii all the way from D.C, does not look good.
It's not the vacation. It's because he went to Hawaii and it is so far away. If he had gone to Camp David or Orlando, it would not have been so bad.



The rest of your post is birther nonsense which indicates that your intellectual development is on par with an adult hamster, which I don't have time to respond to..


Well, you must be related to the hamster family if you could not detect the smart aleck attitude I was implying. Sometimes humor does not translate well in print.
__________________
"The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for."....Joseph Addison
--------------------
Raymond42262 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 08:46 PM   #109
bimmerfan08
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 4,890
My Ride: Phoenix Yellow M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammk View Post
Agreed about kicking the can down the road. The debt ceiling is the real debate that's yet to happen in an effective manner with sustainable solutions. However, it's better than nothing because without the deal passed before the 1st, millions of middle and lower income people would have automatically started to pay higher taxes and would have initiated a slow double-dip recession.

Just look at how the stock market reacted today - if anyone had any common sense, they would have made a small windfall in a matter of seconds this morning.

So you can't blame Obama and the Senate for passing something in spite of Congress.

The President was not back from his vacation, he was merely taking a break from a vacation to look after urgent business. Which reiterates what I've said before - as POTUS, you never get to take a vacation and chill out on a beach like the Hollywood types. You're working most if not all the time. You're merely in a different place with different people, but you're still working..

The rest of your post is birther nonsense which indicates that your intellectual development is on par with an adult hamster, which I don't have time to respond to..
Stop implying pity on Obama and congress. They took the jobs and they can take the responsibilities. American citizens and this country should be top priority for them regardless of how much vacation they have had. When they actually accomplish something worthwhile then I may budge. Until then they can enjoy all the benefits that one enjoys for simply being a politician that the majority of us don't.
__________________
"Economics cannot answer such normative or prescriptive questions about how much of our market incomes, if any, should be transferred to poor families. This is a political question that can only be answered at the ballot box, or in some countries, at the point of a gun."

Last edited by bimmerfan08; 01-02-2013 at 08:47 PM.
bimmerfan08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 08:55 PM   #110
NOVAbimmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 12,299
My Ride: 14 Impala FXST M796
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 View Post
+1

I was impressed at how they tried to work together but pissed off at the fact they waited until the last moment and then quickly hashed something temporarily together. It's like half assing a paper at the last minute and expecting to get an A.
The worst part is that they keep passing these temporary measures claiming that its just so a permanent deal can be struck before the next "fiscal cliff". Then, when the next one comes about, both houses and parties yell back and forth about who's fault it is that a deal hasn't been made, and they take it up until the very last possible minute in order to throw together some new sh1tty temporary measure, claiming that they'll do something permanent before the next time.

I'm so ashamed of everybody sitting on Capitol Hill right now. And the president. It's absolutely shameful how ineffective out congress has become. These guys all need to be fired and replaced with rational people who are actually concerned with getting things done in a timely manner and making reasonable compromises based in reality.
__________________

Last edited by NOVAbimmer; 01-02-2013 at 08:56 PM.
NOVAbimmer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 08:57 PM   #111
NOVAbimmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 12,299
My Ride: 14 Impala FXST M796
Congress was better at compromising in the years before the Civil War than they are right now.
__________________
NOVAbimmer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2013, 09:58 PM   #112
bimmerfan08
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 4,890
My Ride: Phoenix Yellow M3
Wtf so everyone wants to agree with me 1 week later after the fact?
__________________
"Economics cannot answer such normative or prescriptive questions about how much of our market incomes, if any, should be transferred to poor families. This is a political question that can only be answered at the ballot box, or in some countries, at the point of a gun."
bimmerfan08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 05:27 AM   #113
MDydinanM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Coast
Posts: 754
My Ride: is a ///M
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerfan08 View Post
Wtf so everyone wants to agree with me 1 week later after the fact?
No, I don't mind the POTUS taking time off, but what I'm disappointed with is the deal, or rather just kicking the can down the road. This debt issue is no secret, and they've had plenty of time to compromise and cut spending. However, it's always at the last minute where a deal is struck which results in postponement.

In sum, disappointed. I hope lawmakers and the POTUS make it their main effort this term to solve this issue.
__________________

Last edited by MDydinanM; 01-03-2013 at 05:36 AM.
MDydinanM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 06:01 AM   #114
NOVAbimmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 12,299
My Ride: 14 Impala FXST M796
In for next fiscal cliff last minute temporary "deal" in D - 60
__________________
NOVAbimmer is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use