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Old 12-27-2012, 03:29 PM   #61
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Exactly. Context.

I have no problem with these being sold, but to market them DIRECTLY to children is my beef. They are a gimmack, party favor, etc that many adults might want to use... Think 50's theme party or something.

What's portrayed in this picture and putting them on store shelves next to kids toys and stuff is COMPLETELY different




Seriously... it's 2013 in a couple days... people still smoke? Don't you know by now how visually and olfactorily disgusting you are to everyone around you?
Again, just like gun control, separate yourself (your feelings) from the issue and think rationally. Are adults not allowed/dont buy anything from candy stores or in this case, a "pop shop" ? Do adults come into these stores? If so, then why can a store not sell these? Where is an adult going to go to buy them?
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I would like to see the statistics that says kids who chew this gum are more likely smoke. I would also like to see how many of those kids have parents or older influences that smoke. Its for parents to teach/control not the goverment.

This is a step in loosing more liberties. While im not a smoker and against it in general it is peoples choice to do so. Same as drinking and owning guns. What makes anyone think they have the right to enforce their views on anyone else.
Statistics contradict JJ. Hes right, all those towards kids smoking ads, commercials during kids tv time (I think commercials period), cartoon characters as mascots have been eliminated, yet teen smoking is up, and rising.
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Again, just like gun control, separate yourself (your feelings) from the issue and think rationally. Are adults not allowed/dont buy anything from candy stores or in this case, a "pop shop" ? Do adults come into these stores? If so, then why can a store not sell these? Where is an adult going to go to buy them?
Point me to where in the Bill of Rights... candy is included.

I can show you guns very easily.
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Statistics contradict JJ. Hes right, all those towards kids smoking ads, commercials during kids tv time (I think commercials period), cartoon characters as mascots have been eliminated, yet teen smoking is up, and rising.
I guess it depends on which studies/statistics you're citing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...379450228.html

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The annual report, funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and conducted by the University of Michigan, found the number of teenagers who reported smoking cigarettes in the prior 30 days fell to 10.6% this year from 11.7% in 2011, the lowest level recorded since the survey began in 1975.

"That [drop] doesn't sound like a lot, but it represents about a 9% reduction in a single year in the number of teens currently smoking," said Lloyd Johnston, the study's main researcher and a University of Michigan professor. Dr. Johnston also said the proportion of students who reported ever trying smoking has dropped sharply since the mid-1990s.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:01 PM   #65
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Point me to where in the Bill of Rights... candy is included.

I can show you guns very easily.
Freedom to do business is a cornerstone of this country, be it selling guns or selling candy.
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I guess it depends on which studies/statistics you're citing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...379450228.html
I contributed to that statistic. Never smoked and don't intend to. The schools and government did their job I guess.
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"They". Again with this idea that white people are a singular organism with a single will.

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The candy cigs I had as a kid looked like chalk sticks. Maybe I'm confusing them with something else.
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I used to love big league chew, but I had no idea at the time that it was emulating tobbacco. On the other hand I knew candy/gum cigarettes were onviously emulating smoking.

As for the comments about the candy cigarettes, if I remember correctly it was the gum cigarettes that you could blow smoke out of.
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We're talking about different things then. Candy cigarettes are just that, candy. You eat them. I've had those prank cigarettes before that have powder in them and look like the real thing. A friend and I walked around the mall when we were 12 blowing them just to see people's reactions.

Nah dude the ones I'm talking about are the same. They're gum but you can puff through them. They were green, red, yellow I remember.
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Nah dude the ones I'm talking about are the same. They're gum but you can puff through them. They were green, red, yellow I remember.
Those are the ones i remember as well but you could get one to two puffs tops out of them.
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The ones you can puff through is only once, twice maybe.

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but that's your job as a parent to teach your kid good vs bad habits... not the government's.
I agree 100% here.

For what its worth, both parents smoke cigs, and my older brother smokes cigs and other stuff... I ate SO MANY candy cigarettes as a kid, its a stick of sugar soo delicious. I have never had a puff of a cigarette or anything else - nor do I have a desire to. There is zero correlation to candy cigarettes and kids who grow up to be smokers.

... but man I desire some more candy cigs!

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Hey guys, I have this crazy idea but stay with me for a second. It's called being a responsible parent; if you think it's bad for your kid then don't let them have it, you don't need the gov't to do it for you.
get the fvck out of here with that noise. i'm going to accept all praise when my kid turns out well and blame everybody and everything around me when they don't.
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I agree 100% here.

For what its worth, both parents smoke cigs, and my older brother smokes cigs and other stuff... I ate SO MANY candy cigarettes as a kid, its a stick of sugar soo delicious. I have never had a puff of a cigarette or anything else - nor do I have a desire to. There is zero correlation to candy cigarettes and kids who grow up to be smokers.

... but man I desire some more candy cigs!

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Am so glad you posted your analogous subjective example so we can state unequivocably that there's zero correlation. Nothing makes for better science than applying a single vague uncertain sample to an entire population.

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Am so glad you posted your analogous subjective example so we can state unequivocably that there's zero correlation. Nothing makes for better science than applying a single vague uncertain sample to an entire population.

But if you have only one point plotted on a graph, you can extrapolate in any direction! It gives you maximum flexibility.
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