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Old 12-28-2012, 10:54 PM   #21
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Maybe the medical examiner got it wrong? Small town examiner, doesn't see many cases of people getting shot in the quiet town. Could very well have made a mistake.

Or one of the media outlets did. Or no one knows. Someone should make the truth plain and clear and no one has.
Apparently you didn't watch the interview. The guy is not a small town doc. He is the statewide chief medical examiner. He was very comfortable when he plainly said he had seen many more bodies and gun wounds, that he knew the caliber of the bullet right away much more accurately than any of the "big time" cops that were surrounding him.

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Old 12-28-2012, 10:54 PM   #22
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Bend over... Pick up shell casings... Use a 3rd grade level of firearm knowledge.

A 223, 556 or shot shell looks NOTHING like a 22, 9, 40 or 45 shell

This SIMPLE fact alone screams conspiracy

Look at the shell casings!
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:56 PM   #23
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Bend over... Pick up shell casings... Use a 3rd grade level of firearm knowledge.

A 223, 556 or shot shell looks NOTHING like a 22, 9, 40 or 45 shell

This SIMPLE fact alone screams conspiracy

Look at the shell casings!
If you're a senator from California, they all look like barrel shrouds.
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Apparently you didn't watch the interview. The guy is not a small town doc. He is the statewide chief medical examiner. He was very comfortable when he plainly said he had seen many more bodies and gun wounds, that he knew the caliber of the bullet right away than any of the "big time" cops that were surrounding him.

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Was trying to edit the post. I did just read that. I stand corrected on that point.

But if you also watch the interviews, you'll note that for a big time examiner, he seems pretty damn unnerved standing up there in front of them all. Alot of his responses were weak and lacking in confidence, and some of them border on contradictory.
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I remember that video.

EDIT: I'll leave this here for lolz...

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Starting to think this guy was an actor or drugged up by the gov on mind altering drugs... Stuck in a room for 24 hours while the "answers" were programmed into his head.

That creepy laugh...... Same as the dad of the deceased child during the interview.

My tinfoil is getting too thick even for me.

The stuff I'm seeing, hearing and reading seems so fake to me.

ALL kids were killed by the rifle, yet a chief medical examiner can't tell you the caliber??????
He can't tell you how many boys vs girls?
Not to mention video of the rifle being pulled from the car trunk

Too many "slips" in his answers. Who LAUGHS after the autopsy of 20 dead kids?

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I would like to chime in.. They are firearms, not weapons... Weapons are used on the battle field. What we purchase at gun stores are called firearms
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In the interest of full disclosure of all information, the original link I posted in support of this story has been disputed. It is at best evidence in support of a supposition that an AR15 was not used and at worst it is a strong piece of evidence that supports the facts that the amount of conflicting information that exists around this case is staggering. I don't think we'll know everything that happened until some reports come out.

I want to see the police and medical reports.
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I remember when they first started reporting on it.. One of the reporters said they found two guns a glock and a sig sauer.. Then later mentioned the ar being found in the trunk..
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FWIW I believe it was a shotgun pulled from the boys car... Not an AR.

Not sure what was used but regardless of this incident, two pistols concealed in your pants are equally as dangerous as an easy to spot AR strapped to your back... This war against rifles is just mind boggling
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Too many "slips" in his answers. Who LAUGHS after the autopsy of 20 dead kids?
Not trying to explain this one away here, but I work with medical examiners in the field, and they are some morbid motherfuckers. We were cracking jokes at a suicide scene one time. It's inappropriate, but it does happen. There are numerous psychological studies and publications that explain why this is not very concerning and really not necessarily a bad thing, but I won't go into that. Suffice it to say, doctors, cops, paramedics, soldiers and similar professions are rampant with dark humor that would make a nun have an aneurism.
I think that he could also be laughing because of nervousness. I've had people laugh while confessing to felonies during Miranda statements. Sometimes they do it because they're overwhelmed, sometimes they do it because they know they're fucked. It happens.

Food for thought. Again, not trying to take a side here.
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I dont underatand why someone would even need more then a hunting rifle or a handgun for small game. Here in canada thats all we have available. No army weapons style are allowed to be sold to citizens. I think they should ban then from stores

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I don't know where in Canada you live, but judging from your spelling of 'Canadien' in a later post, and the grade three level English spelling and grammar, I'm guessing Quebec? I won't get into my thoughts on Quebec here, as it will get me perma-banned but:

Please STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. It's very clear you know nothing of our nations' gun laws.

You can buy the same Bushmaster AR at nearly every gun store in Canada. You can buy the same Glocks, and Sig Sauer handguns. Also, you cannot hunt with a handgun in Canada, as it is a restricted firearm.

I think we should ban stupidity in Quebec.
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A 223, 556 or shot shell looks NOTHING like a 22, 9, 40 or 45 shell
i dont see a difference. for all i know all of these were fired from the same machine gun.

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I dont underatand why someone would even need more then a hunting rifle or a handgun for small game. Here in canada thats all we have available. No army weapons style are allowed to be sold to citizens. I think they should ban then from stores
Define what makes a rifle classified as a "hunting rifle" ?
Also, you are aware that we have big game in the US too right? You're not the only ones with deer, elk, moose, black bear, brown bear, mountain lion, bison and hippies you know.
There aren't too many animals in this country that I couldn't kill with a 7.62 caliber AR. Most of the high end 7.62 ARs are more accurate than commercial bolt action or break action hunting rifles, which means a cleaner and more humane kill of the animal due to better shot placement. Also, faster cyclic also mean faster follow-up shots in case you wound the animal but it does not go down. Again, a faster kill is a more humane kill.

Oh, and BTW- there are several handguns built specifically for hunting.



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I don't know where in Canada you live, but judging from your spelling of 'Canadien' in a later post, and the grade three level English spelling and grammar, I'm guessing Quebec? I won't get into my thoughts on Quebec here, as it will get me perma-banned but:

Please STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. It's very clear you know nothing of our nations' gun laws.

You can buy the same Bushmaster AR at nearly every gun store in Canada. You can buy the same Glocks, and Sig Sauer handguns. Also, you cannot hunt with a handgun in Canada, as it is a restricted firearm.

I think we should ban stupidity in Quebec.
To be fair, the entire country of Canada hates Quebec. Back in 2002 I did winter survival training with the Canadian infantry (2PPCLI) in northern Ontario. They all hated Quebec and fully supported them when Quebec talked about secession in the late 1990s. A couple guys even had a plan to build a large electric fence and moat around the entire province.
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FWIW I believe it was a shotgun pulled from the boys car... Not an AR.

Not sure what was used but regardless of this incident, two pistols concealed in your pants are equally as dangerous as an easy to spot AR strapped to your back... This war against rifles is just mind boggling
+1. I read the same about the shotgun.

In my opinion, the public outcry against scary-looking ARs is mostly emotional and mis-guided. Clearly many other "normal" looking rifles are functionally identical. Fear is a very powerful emotion.
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+1. I read the same about the shotgun.

In my opinion, the public outcry against scary-looking ARs is mostly emotional and mis-guided. Clearly many other "normal" looking rifles are functionally identical. Fear is a very powerful emotion.
The problem isn't emotion... That will subside.

The problem is we have a president who has always been anti-gun and a asshat Californian who will use that emotion and the president's head nod to pass absorb legislation which won't solve a damn thing except to further deteriorates the fundamental rights we, as us citizens, are entitled to.
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I dont underatand why someone would even need more then a hunting rifle or a handgun for small game. Here in canada thats all we have available. No army weapons style are allowed to be sold to citizens. I think they should ban then from stores

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How in the hell do these dumbasses keep getting in here?

Dude, you can legally BUY a AR in canada. They are not restricted because they have a sporting exception.You just have to obtain a PAL from your CFO. Infact SBR's are not restricted AND you can buy items such as open bolt semi autos....

You wana know how easy it is to convert a open bolt semi sten (or any other open bolt semi) to FA??? Just cut about 1/4th a inch off the dissconnector lever. After that the rifle might as well have the selector pushed over in the FA position.

HOLY FUCKIN SHIT!!! AR's in CANADA!!!
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Now what? Got anymore dumbass comments?
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With all due respect what does health care have to do with gun control. Dude you guys sell automatic weapons in gun shops please explain to me what's the use of having that kind of weapon ? Im no US citizen and damn proud of being Canadien but also respect my neighboors down south I just dont understand the idea of having these types of weapons sold in stores to a person with a weapon license. Please can you clarify why a person would need an automatic military style weapon ?

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