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Old 01-11-2013, 01:55 PM   #1
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Advice on a 2000 328i w/ 150k miles going for $3500

I have an opportunity to pick up a very clean 2000 328i with 150k miles on it





Car has been really well taken care with a great maintenance history including a trans rebuild not too long ago with receipt to prove. (however owner said that the reverse gear problem comes back now and again even after rebuild).

Looking to either clean up and flip or keep....

To Buy or Not to buy? Expert opinion requested

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #2
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Check the subframe. Coupe + 328 = most issues. Also the reverse problem is most likely the solenoid if the car has the GM tranny. $250 fix with new fluid and filter. Car looks clean, but I'd still get it inspected.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #3
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Search 'reverse gear here' not sure what that would cost.

No way to judge based on outside and interior pictures...all the cost is under the hood and under the body. If you want to post all the repairs...photograph engine...etc...maybe...but all I can say is get a PPI...and have subframe checked, or that's another $1-5,000 repair.

I bet your 'looks' nice has a bit of work to do to get it prime. If it has subframe issue, it's not worth it unless you're doing that yourself.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #4
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All I know is that it is his wifes car, they just bought a used 09 X5 to replace this. History is up to date, but I just saw the folder didn't really dig in. 2 owner car that was purchased by this couple in 2006. Seems like they cared about the car.



This is all I have for the engine. No idea about the subframe as it was never fixed by this owner, not sure about previous. I can imagine that any 328i that has made it to 150k has had to have had it corrected by now, right?

Say the car has had its annual check-ups and subframe corrected, what do these typically sell for in good condition? Is $3500 high?
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If he had subframe done, there would be a $5,000 bill from BMW marked Cost: N/A

Something like that.

You can look. See the "how to check my subframe" thread.
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Say the car has had its annual check-ups and subframe corrected, what do these typically sell for in good condition? Is $3500 high?

If everything you say has been done and the car is in good condition it is worth more than 5k.

The people here will tell you to offer 3k, but when it comes to sell their own car they will put the price that doesnt even make any sense.
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If everything you say has been done and the car is in good condition it is worth more than 5k.

The people here will tell you to offer 3k, but when it comes to sell their own car they will put the price that doesnt even make any sense.
If that deal falls through, OP, I'm selling my 328i. It's a '99 with only 243,000 miles on it. 5 spd. Cassette player, 7 working speakers. Just about everything important is replaced. Tip top shape. Fully gummi pfleged...I mean, thoroughly. $37,500
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ppi then buy. 3500 is a good deal regardless
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If that deal falls through, OP, I'm selling my 328i. It's a '99 with only 243,000 miles on it. 5 spd. Cassette player, 7 working speakers. Just about everything important is replaced. Tip top shape. Fully gummi pfleged...I mean, thoroughly. $37,500

Dmax, don't you think that $37,500 is a bit low? You are giving your car away at that price!
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If that deal falls through, OP, I'm selling my 328i. It's a '99 with only 243,000 miles on it. 5 spd. Cassette player, 7 working speakers. Just about everything important is replaced. Tip top shape. Fully gummi pfleged...I mean, thoroughly. $37,500
I can only imagine that quote from you When are you going to part out? I want only the portions that are gummi pfleged.

OP,
When I see people here asking for advice on buying a used e46, 90% of time; it is "its not worth it, save a little more and get a 330 or a zhp", "you will regret it" and bashing on the wheels the car has, the tint, or a small imperfection on the bumper or a tear in the seat.
That is just plain stupid, every car is worth exactly what the buyer thinks its worth for. And if you get the proof that it has been maintained well, buy it for 3500.
Ask Dmax, on how much he likes his 328.

I am currently looking for a e39 but not getting the one that I like. If I feel the car is worth the asking price I will pay it. But if I dont like the car, I wont even bother to offer any price.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:03 PM   #13
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Car looks good, but I would get a PPI. Tell the owner that if the PPI comes back clean, you'll pay for it. If it comes back bad, they pay for it so they'll have it for future prospective buyers. Basically you're telling them that if they've been 100% honest and there truly are no issues, it won't cost them a dime. If they balk at this, go with your gut. If it's clean it's a deal.
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I can only imagine that quote from you When are you going to part out? I want only the portions that are gummi pfleged.

OP,
When I see people here asking for advice on buying a used e46, 90% of time; it is "its not worth it, save a little more and get a 330 or a zhp", "you will regret it" and bashing on the wheels the car has, the tint, or a small imperfection on the bumper or a tear in the seat.
That is just plain stupid, every car is worth exactly what the buyer thinks its worth for. And if you get the proof that it has been maintained well, buy it for 3500.
Ask Dmax, on how much he likes his 328.

I am currently looking for a e39 but not getting the one that I like. If I feel the car is worth the asking price I will pay it. But if I dont like the car, I wont even bother to offer any price.

To be honest with all of you I have a 02 M3 Vert that sits in storage 7 months a year. Even this last year I only put 2500 on it, and the daily driver is a Maxima. I am just bored and want a project to mess around with. I looked at e38 7-series (absolutely love that body style) 99+ 740i's but all I find are ones that are beat up or 740il's that I have no interest in. I was looking for a clean e39 540i, but same thing or they are really high priced. I had a chance to grab a front end damaged 02 330ix for $2500 w/ 133k but I missed out on it by a few hours.

Simply put I am looking to pick something up, play around with it and then sell it.
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Email from owner just now...

Subframe never repaired - and never heard of it as an issue.

Robinson's Fireston has most of the work on the car - and never mentioned any issues. They have been all over the car.

She's been a good car. Never needed much for a 150k car. I talked about the trans. Went to the Trans shop today (Cork's Transmissions) today and chatted about bringing it back to him a 5th time. I don't hold much hope or that being sucessful - after being unsucessful the last 4 returns.

Cork's Trans rebuild - Sep 2011 $3,000

Robinson's Firestone - Dec 2010 Brakes, alignment, ball joint $662

Automotive Enterprises - Apr 2008 Front hub and front and rear bearings $674

Oswego Firestone - Oct 2009 Replaced entire A/C system $1,161

Robinson's Firestone - Oct 2012. Car was dripping on driveway. Not a lot - but made a bit of a mess. They replaced radiator, replaced valve cover gaskets and installed a new water pump while doing the radiator. $815

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To be honest with all of you I have a 02 M3 Vert that sits in storage 7 months a year. Even this last year I only put 2500 on it, and the daily driver is a Maxima. I am just bored and want a project to mess around with. I looked at e38 7-series (absolutely love that body style) 99+ 740i's but all I find are ones that are beat up or 740il's that I have no interest in. I was looking for a clean e39 540i, but same thing or they are really high priced. I had a chance to grab a front end damaged 02 330ix for $2500 w/ 133k but I missed out on it by a few hours.

Simply put I am looking to pick something up, play around with it and then sell it.
If you are planning to flip it then you can still make a grand on the car without doing anything.

And if you are looking for a project, I think 328 is not a good place to start. I mean, if you plan to track it, then you will have to spend tons to bring it to the mark. And if you are planning straight on motorswaps for power, I guess there are other platforms which will give you more gain.

Just saying
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Doesn't it seem strange that reverse doesn't work after spending 3 grand to have the tranny rebuilt? I bet he got a 3 month warranty on the rebuild and it started flaking out in Jan. Very clean car, though.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:08 PM   #18
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To buy or not to buy, mixed reviews over this vehicle. I'll offer 3k and see if he bites, and if the owner sells worst case scenario I part it out, or sell it for what I bought it for.
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OP,
1. get a PPI by a BMW dealer or indy BMW shop. WHy? Because BMW is not a Honda or Chevy.
2. Firestone did all the work. Really?! Do you go to a dentist when you break your arm? I know Firestone location has mechanics, but they are not BMW specialists. Why specialists? See #1 above.
3. at 150K, you are VERY LIKELY looking at complete suspension refresh (springs, shocks, RTAB, front contral arm and bushings, bearings, etc) now or very soon.
4. Subframe had to at least have been inspected by BMW dealer for free per the lawsuit settlement. PPI will find any possible issues or repairs.
5. $3,500 is a good deal if the car passes PPI. If it does not, the suspension refresh alone will cost you $1500 at least.
6. $3k for a tranny rebuild and it still has issues. The owner got raped.

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