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Old 01-03-2013, 03:08 PM   #21
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I posted it, you read it. Do you understand it? If so, good, if not, read it again. Why you asking me. Ask the CBO.
I could tell you if you want to know. The $4 trillion price tag is the difference between what would have happened if ALL tax cuts were to expire. Is that what you would have preferred?
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You are ridiculous. You championed for tax increases and yet you think that is enough to offset debt and spending? Those are estimates. I'm not believing anything until I see cold hard facts. Btw what is your profession?
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Like I said, Busa will roll his eyes. Nothing new here. Where are the cuts Busa? Are these the same cuts that were advertised in Obamacare.. only to then be overturned by the CBO?

I guess this is what happens when you think you have to vote for the bill in order to find out what's in it
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Capitalism will ultimately fail as the masses have realized they can vote themselves goods from the public treasury. Tyranny will rise and the select few that rule over the masses in this nation will look back and applaud Obama for giving them the chance to rule over Americans as their dependent subjects... subjects that are happy with a meager existence of table scraps.
Tell me Chase, how tyrannical is Japan or the UK? Both have higher tax rates than the US. Are people today fleeing from the tyranny and oppression of either of those two governments?

Higher tax rates do not equal tyranny, oppression, or the end of capitalism. This is not taxation without representation. The american people duly elected the all the folks in the house, senate, and white house who have passed this legislation. Maybe it isn't what you want (or what I want) but that is not tyranny. Stupidity on behalf of the electorate perhaps, but, not tyranny. We have gotten the govt we deserve. The govt we the people put in power and have the power to change. Your is counter-productive. You don't want to fix the problem, you just want to complain about it.
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I could tell you if you want to know. The $4 trillion price tag is the difference between what would have happened if ALL tax cuts were to expire. Is that what you would have preferred?

Why are you obsessed with my profession? Ask someone. Others here know.
Because I'm curious to know if your profession has some tie to your biased responses. Plus I would like to know if you have ever managed a budget or understand how one functions?
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Because I'm curious to know if your profession has some tie to your biased responses. Plus I would like to know if you have ever managed a budget or understand how one functions?
You are ridiculous.
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Tell me Chase, how tyrannical is Japan or the UK? Both have higher tax rates than the US. Are people today fleeing from the tyranny and oppression of either of those two governments?

Higher tax rates do not equal tyranny, oppression, or the end of capitalism. This is not taxation without representation. The american people duly elected the all the folks in the house, senate, and white house who have passed this legislation. Maybe it isn't what you want (or what I want) but that is not tyranny. Stupidity on behalf of the electorate perhaps, but, not tyranny. We have gotten the govt we deserve. The govt we the people put in power and have the power to change. Your is counter-productive. You don't want to fix the problem, you just want to complain about it.
Everyone complains. Save your sob story for real suckers.
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I think that in politics in this country, one group is WAYYYYY too sensitive to this stuff.
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Where are the SPENDING CUTS?
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Tell me Chase, how tyrannical is Japan or the UK? Both have higher tax rates than the US. Are people today fleeing from the tyranny and oppression of either of those two governments?

Higher tax rates do not equal tyranny, oppression, or the end of capitalism. This is not taxation without representation. The american people duly elected the all the folks in the house, senate, and white house who have passed this legislation. Maybe it isn't what you want (or what I want) but that is not tyranny. Stupidity on behalf of the electorate perhaps, but, not tyranny. We have gotten the govt we deserve. The govt we the people put in power and have the power to change. Your is counter-productive. You don't want to fix the problem, you just want to complain about it.
I do want a fix and I have provided countless arguments against what's been going down. You can dislike my positions (as Busa does) but don't state that I'm out here simply defaming Obama.. I'm arguing the counter position.

You will find COUNTLESS posts on here where I've argued for higher taxes and LOWER spending. Busa will sit around and proclaim that the republicans are just trying to protect the wealthy by refusing tax hikes. ANY argument I provide for a spending cut will result in "well the little poor people won't be able to afford food" bullsh*t. It's just emotional on his part.. and I can't blame him because that's all that you see on MSNBC. Pundits b*tching on and on about republicans protecting the wealthy and trying to take away from the poor.

WE HAVE TO STOP SPENDING! And the spending tied so closely to the pandering that took place in this election. Obama presented it just as I have above. He claimed he wanted to take from the rich so that the poor could have their "fair chance". That was his simplified pitch for presidency. Now, why do we have to increase taxes? Because we have a deficit. Why do we have the deficit? Because politicians won't own up to the mess that they've created and CUT THE SPENDING. Instead, they wish to kick the can down the road further, pass the burden onto the next guy, and take all the glory for the handouts that are given out in the interim. Obama is a prime example of this.

Our politicians have failed to put together a budget for how many years now? And why? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ENSURE MONEY GOES TO THEIR FRIENDS AND VOTING BASES. It's a system DESIGNED TO FAIL.
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I think that in politics in this country, one group is WAYYYYY too sensitive to this stuff.
Dare I ask you what that group is? Come on don't be a coward, speak your mind. I'd be delighted to hear your response.
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White, christian, heterosexual men are the ones who are WAYYYY too sensitive. Any jokes made about this group results in people throwing around racism charges....

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You are ridiculous.
Your opinion is just that. Yours. I'm returning the favor in the manner in which you return your responses to our questions.
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I do want a fix and I have provided countless arguments against what's been going down.
Should we send links of your posts to Obama? I'm sure he'd like to hear about the false accusations of racism that tumblr blogger have been making against a tennis player.

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You can dislike my positions (as Busa does) but don't state that I'm out here simply defaming Obama.. I'm arguing the counter position.
You're suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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You will find COUNTLESS posts on here where I've argued for higher taxes and LOWER spending. Busa will sit around and proclaim that the republicans are just trying to protect the wealthy by refusing tax hikes.
Really, they're just trying to protect their jobs.

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ANY argument I provide for a spending cut will result in "well the little poor people won't be able to afford food" bullsh*t. It's just emotional on his part.. and I can't blame him because that's all that you see on MSNBC.
I don't even get MSNBC.

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Pundits b*tching on and on about republicans protecting the wealthy and trying to take away from the poor.
And other pundits b*tch about other things.

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WE HAVE TO STOP SPENDING!
Fine. What would you like to stop spending on? How does it add up? I realize you're not a math major, but the math shouldn't be terribly hard and there are tons of sites that will help you. How will your cuts impact the economy? If the majority of the country isn't spending enough to fuel the economy what happens when you take a bit more money away from them?

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And the spending tied so closely to the pandering that took place in this election. Obama presented it just as I have above. He claimed he wanted to take from the rich so that the poor could have their "fair chance". That was his simplified pitch for presidency. Now, why do we have to increase taxes? Because we have a deficit. Why do we have the deficit? Because politicians won't own up to the mess that they've created and CUT THE SPENDING.
It has nothing to do with tax cuts or wars that were kept off the books?



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Instead, they wish to kick the can down the road further, pass the burden onto the next guy, and take all the glory for the handouts that are given out in the interim. Obama is a prime example of this.

Our politicians have failed to put together a budget for how many years now? And why? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ENSURE MONEY GOES TO THEIR FRIENDS AND VOTING BASES. It's a system DESIGNED TO FAIL.
Which is it? Obama is trying to make the system fail AND make himself look good? Or are Republicans trying to make the system fail and make Obama look BAD?
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Using CBPP, a liberal thinktank, to make points

ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS ARE THE LARGEST DRIVING FORCE IN OUR DEFICIT

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Federal entitlements are driving this spending growth, having increased from less than half of total federal outlays just 20 years ago to nearly 62 percent in 2012. Three major programs-Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security-dominate in size and growth, soaking up about 44 percent of the budget. All three programs are growing faster than inflation, and-when joined with $1.7 trillion in new Obamacare spending-will drain about 18.5 percent of the nation's total economic output by mid-century. Because that is about the historical annual average of total federal tax revenue, it means all other government programs-national defense, veterans health care, transportation, federal law enforcement, and others-would effectively have to be financed on borrowed money.
It's not Bush's tax cuts and war... you can sit around and circle jerk liberals all day long but that ISN'T the largest problem. You're simply diverting attention to it because those two terms scream "Republican"... despite the obvious fact that Obama and a liberal congress extended the tax cuts and voted to extend and expand the war efforts

So make your pictures as large as you'd like.. your words and ideas are still small.
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'busa you are ridiculous Stop being so hypocritical
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but even they worked.
Their freedom was taken from them in order for others to benefit off their hard work. But I wouldn't expect someone of your cognitive caliber to understand the irony.
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I could tell you if you want to know. The $4 trillion price tag is the difference between what would have happened if ALL tax cuts were to expire. Is that what you would have preferred?

Why are you obsessed with my profession? Ask someone. Others here know.
I didn't ask, you did.

So now you have answered your on question.
Do you have many conversations with yourself?
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ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS ARE THE LARGEST DRIVING FORCE IN OUR DEFICIT
Derides CBPP as a source. Quotes Heritage Foundation. Without listing source. Look, even bimmerfan08 is seeing right through you.
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It's not Bush's tax cuts and war... you can sit around and circle jerk liberals all day long but that ISN'T the largest problem. You're simply diverting attention to it because those two terms scream "Republican"... despite the obvious fact that Obama and a liberal congress extended the tax cuts and voted to extend and expand the war efforts
I'm not denying that those two were prolonged by Obama.

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So make your pictures as large as you'd like.. your words and ideas are still small.
The picture is as large as it is. I didn't make it smaller or bigger. You're welcome to point out the inaccuracy in it.
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The picture is as large as it is. I didn't make it smaller or bigger. You're welcome to point out the inaccuracy in it.
He'll need to dock his laptop to F2B's 70" plasma in order to evaluate it more closely.
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Their freedom was taken from them in order for others to benefit off their hard work. But I wouldn't expect someone of your cognitive caliber to understand the irony.
Ironic that that's exactly what is happening these days.

But I wouldn't expect someone like you who is addicted to drinking the koolaid, to understand that irony.
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