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Old 10-17-2014, 06:51 AM   #1
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Spacers on the back only?

I have stock 16 inch 135i wheels. I think I'd like to move the rear wheels out a bit. The fronts look fine. Am I going to alter the amazing BMW handling?
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:30 AM   #2
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Old 10-17-2014, 11:53 AM   #3
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What is your current tire setup?
You can compare it to the maximum tire width / rim offset recommended, by the factory, for your car.

However, I am not sure if it's worth using spacers, as you won't achieve much else than extra weight.

If you want it for both looks and handling, go for the 18" rims with 245 rear tires and 225 front - I think this is the widest rear tire setup, approved by the factory. Of course, on unmaintained roads, the ride will be really harsh.

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Old 10-17-2014, 12:07 PM   #4
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It's pretty obvious he's doing it for looks. Spacers are not for modifying handling at all.

To the OP, spacers have next to zero effect on handling.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:32 PM   #5
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It's pretty obvious he's doing it for looks...
I was trying, for a moment, not to tell myself:
"Oh, no, not another owner who really thinks that his e46 is the ultimate driving machine, no matter the version and that some spacers and a bunch of M badges will make it the hyper uber super ultimate driving machine..."

By the way, to whom it may concern...have you noticed that the marketing slogan and, therefore, approach of "ultimate driving machine" is used mainly in English speaking countries?

In Europe, mostly, including Germany, the slogan is a bit more tempered "Sheer driving pleasure", translated into each local language...



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Old 10-18-2014, 06:28 AM   #6
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Sorry I said my BMW has amazing handling. I started with a 76 2002. I have had three BMW's and I do think they are great handling cars.

I had just started hearing about wheel spacers and couldn't find much on the forums about using them with stock wheels.

Five reasons I'm not ready to upgrade my wheels and/or tires: 1 - I just bought my the car and I throwing a bunch of money into it won't be helpful to peace on the home front. 2- It's got a very fresh set of Michelins on board now. 3- I'm old and don't desire the boy racer look as much anymore. 4 - I value keeping the stock look, Otherwise I might have bought one of those ridiculous Eonon radios already. 5 - I really believe there is something to not F'ing with the basic geometry of a car that a company spent millions of dollars and countless man hours in R&D to get right. Do we really think we know better that all the engineers that helped set up this car in the first place?
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I probably won't do anything right now but will look to get a bit more tire than the 205's I have now the stock rims (when they wear out). Thanks for the advise and opinions guys.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:13 AM   #7
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Well, OP, you got the answer by yourself.
You won't find much about spacers on these cars, as most owners are mature enough to understand that more of an improvisation.

There are many other variables, when it comes of wheels and suspension.
A wider track is not enough. You need proper geometry, contact patch between tire and ground, tire grip, tire pressure etc.

Unfortunately, many young owners don't understand all these. They get their driving license, while still spending their nights playing the latest NFS sequel (or whatever is popular nowadays) and they think some decals, a giant spoiler and some side skirts would transform their car into some batmobile..

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Old 10-18-2014, 06:20 PM   #8
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:30 PM   #9
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Well, OP, you got the answer by yourself.
You won't find much about spacers on these cars, as most owners are mature enough to understand that more of an improvisation.

There are many other variables, when it comes of wheels and suspension.
A wider track is not enough. You need proper geometry, contact patch between tire and ground, tire grip, tire pressure etc.

Unfortunately, many young owners don't understand all these. They get their driving license, while still spending their nights playing the latest NFS sequel (or whatever is popular nowadays) and they think some decals, a giant spoilet and some side skirts would transform their car into some batmobile..

Holy **** you couldn't have been more pretentious or condescending if you tried. Are you Mango's apprentice?


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Old 10-18-2014, 08:38 PM   #10
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I just put 15mm spacers on bmw 2004 325ci with 17s and it is a small difference but in my opinion worth it Click image for larger version

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Old 10-18-2014, 08:50 PM   #11
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Thanks MasonA for a most useful post. I'd love to see a better pick of the rear. What width are your tires? What size extended bolt did you go with?
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:55 PM   #12
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Here's a pic of the rear it's harder to see in a picture and honestly I just went on eBay and searched up "15mm bmw e46 wheel spacers" and a solid set came up for 45 and it came with chrome extended lugs and the spacers themselves all in one set


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Old 10-18-2014, 08:57 PM   #13
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Spacers on the back only?

As long as your car isn't lowered and it's at stock height you're guaranteed for clearance


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Old 10-18-2014, 09:01 PM   #14
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And the tire width? I'm running 205's on 16 inch rims. Thanks for the pics. Yours is even the same color as mine. The best BMW color in my opinion.
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Old 10-18-2014, 09:09 PM   #15
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You should measure to see what spacers you can fit. It's much easier that way. Then buy a kit from ECS Tuning that comes with the correct bolts. Bolts should be at least stock length + spacer thickness.
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I honestly don't know the width off the top of my head but I love the grey it's my favorite I don't get why people like the white color


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You should measure to see what spacers you can fit. It's much easier that way. Then buy a kit from ECS Tuning that comes with the correct bolts. Bolts should be at least stock length + spacer thickness.
Good point, below is our video showing how to measure for spacers.



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