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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 04-24-2012, 05:07 PM   #1
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Arrow 2x 15 foot kayaks on an 02 M3? Is that... ok?

I'm thinking about getting BMW part 82-71-0-142-220

and some SportRack ABR511 J-Stacker Kayak Carrier's

to mount two 15 ft Perception Expression kayaks

on my '02 M3 coupe.

I've never had a roof mounted system on any car in my life, never used one before, so I just want to make sure that this isn't obviously retarded in some way that only experience with such things would allow you to understand.

Thanks, lol

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I ordered the Yakima Landshark saddle and it failed miserably to attach to the OEM E46 crossbars. They only really fit small, barely 1 inch thick bars like the one Thule uses.
I ended up driving down the road and buying a Thule Hull-A-Port j-style carrier (specifically, model 835XTR). It did not work right out of the box, but luckily the auto parts store I went to had tons of screws so they matched the thread size and gave me some that were an inch longer.

So you'll notice the silver screws here in the following 2 pictures, those I had to buy separately to get this system to work.




I couldn't figure out where exactly to hook the bow and stern lines to. Eventually, I went way under my car and found a spot I think is ok for the rear lines. (Can someone confirm this??)





I couldn't figure out any place to hook the front (bow) line, so I just had it run back to the cross bar. It's kind of weird that way, but it still helped because it counterbalanced the pull of the stern line.





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  • It doesn't matter which direction your kayak is facing, as long as it's balanced. The picture above was the first time I put it on, and it the front of the kayak was facing the rear. I switched it up on the ride home and there was no difference, other than the kayak being longer over my engine as opposed to behind me.
  • In the picture above I had the straps tightened well but I left the ends loose. I don't think they damaged my car or anything, but they made an annoying whipping sound against it when driving. Just wrap them around something a few times to keep them put.
  • It's almost certainly better to have your cockpit cover on so your cockpit isn't exposed and allows for a smoother ride. Just make sure you attach it somewhere to your boat with a carabiner or something, because it can fall off from the wind while driving. It didn't happen to me the first time (when I secured it down). On the way back I forgot to secure it and it fell off; luckily part of it was tucked under the weight of the boat so it didn't go very far. >_>
  • You can go normal speeds if you strap it down well enough. I went 80+ on the highway on a mildly windy day (10mph winds), and she stayed put. I didn't stop or accelerate as fast as I normally do, but I'm sure I could have.
  • While I used the Hull-A-Port 835XTR, you could probably get away with using a number of other Thule models because they all appear to use the same clamping system. You'll just need to remember to get longer screws to fit. I could tell you what kind, but I know nothing about screws. But here's what my receipt says for the screws: "JPN06080- M6-1.0 X 80 CAP SCR [PAN 6530600]". But as I was saying, theoretically the Glide and Set model 883, Top Deck model 881, Set-to-Go model 878XT, Hydro-Glide model 875XT, even The Stacker model 830 should work.
  • It shouldn't matter too much, but it seemed to make the most sense to mount the kayak carrier closer to the center of my vehicle because I only have 1 kayak. Center of balance and all that. *shrugs*
  • The kayak above is actually a 17 foot kayak, not a 15.

I hope that's useful for people. Ping me if you need anything else.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:11 PM   #2
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its absolutely ok. they wouldnt make the mounts for kayaks if it wasnt... check the load capacity on the racks if your are doubting yourself that much.
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just get a 2nd tow hook and use them front and rear to secure them so you dont scratch anywhere. Two on the rack is fine, they are supposedly rated to lik 175lbs, but one dude had a couch on his car a while back.
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just get a 2nd tow hook and use them front and rear to secure them so you dont scratch anywhere. Two on the rack is fine, they are supposedly rated to lik 175lbs, but one dude had a couch on his car a while back.
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ZX5rider posted it in the roof rack thread a while back.
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The key is to have them VERY securely fastened down and to minimize forward air resistance. I used to run TWO large Windsurfing boards, booms and masts on an RX7. The rack has to be VERY securely fastened to the car - and the kayaks very secure to the rack. Any weak point and they could depart the roof - with serious results for those behind you.
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did this work ok for you? pics?
I ordered the rack and the kayak, I'll put up some pics as soon as they arrive (~1 week)
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Have you tried attaching the tow eye to the front bumper and running the front line to it?
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Have you tried attaching the tow eye to the front bumper and running the front line to it?
The bumper is not very strong plastic, very flimsy underneath where I'd have to hook the line. While it probably wouldn't damage the car, it certainly wouldn't be strong enough to provide any tension for the rope if it actually came down to it (i.e. you accelerated really fast and the kayak slide backwards; the bumper would just crack where the hook was).
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The bumper is not very strong plastic, very flimsy underneath where I'd have to hook the line. While it probably wouldn't damage the car, it certainly wouldn't be strong enough to provide any tension for the rope if it actually came down to it (i.e. you accelerated really fast and the kayak slide backwards; the bumper would just crack where the hook was).
Old thread I know.. But I think he mean installing the townhook from your trunk lid tool box on your front bumper and running your bow line to that.

Looks kinda cool with a kayak on top
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I have had a max of 4. here is a picture of three. I would recommend the Thule 753 specialty rack instead of the BMW one.
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I have had a max of 4. here is a picture of three. I would recommend the Thule 753 specialty rack instead of the BMW one.
Did you have to do any modifications like the OP? Also do you have experience with the bmw kayak rack? I'm wondering if it fits on an e46 oem base rack
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Wonder how long that rope will last contacting the exhaust system like that..? Also how secure it may be anchored to the sway bar.... Seems like both could possibly be done a bit differently.
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Did you have to do any modifications like the OP? Also do you have experience with the bmw kayak rack? I'm wondering if it fits on an e46 oem base rack
i did use anything oem i used all thule products and i made no modifications to the car i just used the tow hooks as my bow and stern lines. i have had this setup up to 80mph on the highway fine
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