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Old 01-19-2013, 12:08 PM   #21
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I embarrassed to be from NJ because of you. Not the other million reasons.
Wow, that's quite an endorsement. Thank you very much. I've always thought of myself as unique, and it's nice to know I'm one in a million, but even better, to know I'm at the tops of the million.

Really good to hear that. I hope I can live up to your lofty expectations of me.
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Also, of course, the place a huge portion of the country gets its reliable news--The Daily Show and Colbert Report--even in the guise as entertainment, you have to know they both report things we should know that the mainstream media doesn't...either because it can't or it won't.
That about explains a lot.

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I admit to watching Fox years and years ago...until I started paying attention more. It's very good in how it does what it does, but once you know what it's up to, you'll never forgive it for its slighting of reliable news reporting. It's obviously nothing much more than an arm of the GOP...the PR arm. Its bias is legion; how can you not know this?
And the aforementioned "news sources" aren't an extension of the other arm?

Your post would've been a little more credible if you didn't use those two. That is exactly like someone trying to mount an argument and citing O'Reilly
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Not at all. O'Reilly doesn't present his comedy as comedy...

Sadly, as I said, the fools, Stewart and Colbert, serve a vital role. King Lear's Fool, you might know, was the only one who could get away with telling Lear the truth. You should listen to the fools...without them, who knows where we'd be now.

BTW, I've been paying attention a lot longer than you, I'd bet...you should trust me on this.
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Individuals make choices and take actions. Sometimes their race informs their choices and actions, sometimes it does not.
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LOL @ NYT being highly regarded. Not by anyone with a brain anymore. Too much liberalism, too much plagiarism and fabrications. Take anything published in that rag with a serious grain of salt.

However, your advice to get news from a variety of sources is sound. Everyone has an agenda, everyone has their biases and prejudices. So in order to truly understand, a diverse group of media is an excellent idea.

Late night comedians don't count.
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LOL @ NYT being highly regarded. Not by anyone with a brain anymore. Too much liberalism, too much plagiarism and fabrications. Take anything published in that rag with a serious grain of salt.

However, your advice to get news from a variety of sources is sound. Everyone has an agenda, everyone has their biases and prejudices. So in order to truly understand, a diverse group of media is an excellent idea.

Late night comedians don't count.
LOL at your LOL. It's the New York Times...it prints news. If it prints a mistake, it corrects it. How many other newspapers can you name with a reputation as fine as the NYT's reputation.

The two comedians I named count very much you know, and they should, they both do exceptional work for our country.
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LOL @ NYT being highly regarded. Not by anyone with a brain anymore. Too much liberalism, too much plagiarism and fabrications. Take anything published in that rag with a serious grain of salt.

However, your advice to get news from a variety of sources is sound. Everyone has an agenda, everyone has their biases and prejudices. So in order to truly understand, a diverse group of media is an excellent idea.

Late night comedians don't count.
+1, read WSJ instead
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+1, read WSJ instead
YES!

The Wall Street Journal is now owned by the same POS that owns Fox News.

No bias there!

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Well, in a result that he will probably accept as downright apocalyptic for America, The Daily Show's Jon Stewart has been selected, in an online poll conducted by Time Magazine, as America's Most Trusted Newscaster, post-Cronkite.

Matched up against Brian Williams, Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson, Stewart prevailed with 44 percent of the vote. Now, if we're being honest, he probably managed to prevail as the winner precisely because he was the odd man out in a field of network news anchors. Nevertheless, I think Jim Cramer should feel free to SNACK ON THAT.

Brian Williams drew the second largest percentage of votes, with 29 percent. Gibson and Couric finished third and fourth, respectively, with 19 and 7 percent of the vote.
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^ jon stewart is a trusted "newsman"?

I watch the daily show every day for its comedic value (barely), but it's frightening that people think the way the issues are portrayed is accurate. Same goes for Colbert - pretty funny, but taken with a grain of salt.
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Jon Stewart is a joke. I like how this thread got completely hijacked by BS
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^ jon stewart is a trusted "newsman"?

I watch the daily show every day for its comedic value (barely), but it's frightening that people think the way the issues are portrayed is accurate. Same goes for Colbert - pretty funny, but taken with a grain of salt.
the BBC reports better national news of the US than the top US news agencies do.

John Stewart and Colbert are just fine...
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Jon Stewart is a joke. I like how this thread got completely hijacked by BS
This thread got highjacked? It should be about how it's wrong that a lawyer charged his client for sex?

Jon Stewart uses jokes to tell you the truth that you otherwise wouldn't hear or think about.

His coverage of the gun ban was brilliant; same for Colbert. We need fools...they're the only ones that can speak truth to power. Both serve a vital role in ensuring there's a vibrant dialogue in our country.

As to the NYTimes comment made...find me one case where the NYTimes printed an inaccurate story and didn't print a retraction, correction, or fire someone over it. It prints news...it doesn't make stuff up. There isn't a higher pinnacle in the world of journalism. It's the fn New York Times...try reading it online, since I assume you don't get it delivered.

Please don't pick news sources based on the amount of stories they tell you that you like or agree with...then you're picking entertainment.
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Again, I watch Stewart every day (well, I watch it every morning from the night before), and I've fact-checked several of his pieces and found them horribly inaccurate.... but again, I watch for the comedic value.

One of my favorite pundits (Steven Crowder) received this after trying to get on the Stewart show to refute some of his opinions.



Again, fox news (while I disagree with a lot of their methods) always has the liberal view represented with guests... hell I even listen to Alan Colms' talk-radio show occasionally (OMG A LIBERAL ON FOX!!!). Stewart and Colbert? They have a conservative politician on occasionally, but never a pundit.

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His coverage of the gun ban was brilliant; same for Colbert. We need fools...they're the only ones that can speak truth to power. Both serve a vital role in ensuring there's a vibrant dialogue in our country.
presenting an appeal to emotions and making funny faces is "brilliant" to you? He didn't defend the proposed gun restrictions with ANYTHING objective aside from calling some right-wingers out for being hypocrites and broad-brushing the entire party as such. The rest of his rant was emotion-focused dribble.

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Please don't pick news sources based on the amount of stories they tell you that you like or agree with...then you're picking entertainment.
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LOL at your LOL. It's the New York Times...it prints news. If it prints a mistake, it corrects it. How many other newspapers can you name with a reputation as fine as the NYT's reputation.

The two comedians I named count very much you know, and they should, they both do exceptional work for our country.
They do exceptional work for themselves, their networks and their advertisers, not our country.

They don't deliver news. They make comedy routines out of current events. They may be good comedy routines, and they may make some good and funny points. But if you hadn't read about the issue elsewhere in order to become educated about it, not only wouldn't you be able to understand the issue based on their comedy routines, you wouldn't even be able to understand what was funny about what they were saying.

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+1, nearly every day. The editorials are fairly polarized, but the regular news sections are better written and better presented than any other daily paper.
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Well, the others do report news; if Fox did any of that too, I wouldn't single it out!

I doubt many here that are smart enough to have a bmw would ever watch Fox, but just in case there are, I felt compelled to warn them. Some still don't have a clue, you know.
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Again, I watch Stewart every day (well, I watch it every morning from the night before), and I've fact-checked several of his pieces and found them horribly inaccurate.... but again, I watch for the comedic value.

One of my favorite pundits (Steven Crowder) received this after trying to get on the Stewart show to refute some of his opinions.



Again, fox news (while I disagree with a lot of their methods) always has the liberal view represented with guests... hell I even listen to Alan Colms' talk-radio show occasionally (OMG A LIBERAL ON FOX!!!). Stewart and Colbert? They have a conservative politician on occasionally, but never a pundit.



presenting an appeal to emotions and making funny faces is "brilliant" to you? He didn't defend the proposed gun restrictions with ANYTHING objective aside from calling some right-wingers out for being hypocrites and broad-brushing the entire party as such. The rest of his rant was emotion-focused dribble.



please take your own advice
The "liberals" on Fox remind me of the basketball teams that play the Harlem Globetrotters.
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Yes- lets pit WSJ and NYTimes against each other. Because they're both totally objective.

Sometimes I wonder if you people could even be serious.
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The "liberals" on Fox remind me of the basketball teams that play the Harlem Globetrotters.
In Al Franken's book, Lies and the Lying Liars that tell them, whenever he referred to one Fox show, it was always Hannity and Colmes.

Colmes is only a liberal compared to Hannity and Limbaugh. He's not a liberal, just played that role...poorly...on Fox.

I didn't mean to offend anyone...I just assumed everyone here understood that Fox is a news source about the same as the Lower Hudson River is a source of clean drinking water...it needs to be filtered and even then shouldn't be consumed! You believe what you hear because that's what you believe.

I thought everyone knew. Sorry to be the one to tell you. I'm just the messenger. Lair told me, so I know it's true. If you have an issue with what I said, take it up with him!
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