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Old 01-20-2013, 06:13 AM   #41
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Give me some specifics. What views/opinions disqualify Colms as being a "real liberal"
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Well, for one, he's sort of a moron, so I certainly don't want him in my club.

Second, I can't recall anything specific he's said, but he was only there as a foil...so it seemed Fox was fair and balanced...and he played, at best, as a centrist. His liberal views were fashioned for the show...he was the well-meaning, slightly stupid liberal, so all the Fox viewers had someone right there they could regard as an idiot. The real Liberals, compared to colmes, were thus painted as Communists.
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Well, for one, he's sort of a moron, so I certainly don't want him in my club.

Second, I can't recall anything specific he's said, but he was only there as a foil...so it seemed Fox was fair and balanced...and he played, at best, as a centrist. His liberal views were fashioned for the show...he was the well-meaning, slightly stupid liberal, so all the Fox viewers had someone right there they could regard as an idiot. The real Liberals, compared to colmes, were thus painted as Communists.
So you have all these assertions/opinions, but no facts to back any of it up with? You can't just call someone a "centrist" without something to back it up with... some reason. Do you feel the same about the rest of the liberals employed by Fox?

-Juan Williams
-Kirsten Powers
-Shepard Smith
-Geraldo Rivera
-Mara Liasson
-Bill Schulz
-Susan Estrich
-Bob Beckel
-Santita Jackson
-Simon Rosenberg

and I'm going to point out again that the "brilliant" Jon Stewart is too cowardly to have ANY conservative pundits on his show.

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So you have all these assertions/opinions, but no facts to back any of it up with? You can't just call someone a "centrist" without something to back it up with... some reason. Do you feel the same about the rest of the liberals employed by Fox?

-Juan Williams
-Kirsten Powers
-Shepard Smith
-Geraldo Rivera
-Mara Liasson
-Bill Schulz
-Susan Estrich
-Bob Beckel
-Santita Jackson
-Simon Rosenberg

and I'm going to point out again that the "brilliant" Jon Stewart is too cowardly to have ANY conservative pundits on his show.
...and I'll point out for the first time, that Stewart has had 0'Reilly on many times, Huckabee, and many Republican representatives.

And, yes, I think your list above are all Centrist or right of Centrist, being paid well to pretend they're liberal. It's all staged, calculated, and I admit, very well devised.

Oh, 90% of what you hear on Fox might be true, but the problem is that that 10% is editorial masquerading as fact, and if you didn't know better, you'd believe it's the way things are. (BTW, I only watch Fox a little; I'm trying to get up to where I can view it for more than 5 minutes without vomiting. So far, I'm only up to 3 minutes.)
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So you have all these assertions/opinions, but no facts to back any of it up with? You can't just call someone a "centrist" without something to back it up with... some reason. Do you feel the same about the rest of the liberals employed by Fox?

-Juan Williams
-Kirsten Powers
-Shepard Smith
-Geraldo Rivera
-Mara Liasson
-Bill Schulz
-Susan Estrich
-Bob Beckel
-Santita Jackson
-Simon Rosenberg

and I'm going to point out again that the "brilliant" Jon Stewart is too cowardly to have ANY conservative pundits on his show.


I thought all the fox defenders were gone. Thanks for keeping the flame.


Fox's list of liberals includes a disgruntled former NPR employee, Geraldo Rivera, and a bunch of losers that nobody's ever heard of. The only one in your list that has any left/moderate tendencies at all is Shepard Smith, and that's only when he's on his period.

If you think that any intelligent liberal would actually work for an insanely partisan gang like Fox, your naïveté is staggering. Everybody knows that Fox has never been fair and balanced. Their corporate motto explains it all: "We report, you decide." In other words "We probably aren't telling you the truth, but we'll let you believe it anyway."

Don't let that stop you from defending them, though. They need all the zombies they can get.

Please post the results of your in-depth investigations that prove Jon Stewart has ever been purposely misleading without retracting his mistake.

Take as much time as you need. I'll wait.
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My theory about Fox is it maintains its viewership by using women with tight fitting tops and substantial breasts. Maybe you guys watching it hadn't noticed? It's a tactic to get you to watch, which is fine, but you have to remember to turn the sound off!
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Well, for one, he's sort of a moron, so I certainly don't want him in my club.

Second, I can't recall anything specific he's said, but he was only there as a foil...so it seemed Fox was fair and balanced...and he played, at best, as a centrist. His liberal views were fashioned for the show...he was the well-meaning, slightly stupid liberal, so all the Fox viewers had someone right there they could regard as an idiot. The real Liberals, compared to colmes, were thus painted as Communists.
Wow, utterly delusional.
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Wow, utterly delusional.
Everyone they get espousing liberal views is some combination of stupid, weak, wacko or all of the above. It makes it very easy for Fox to thus portray the Liberal as the fool.

Haven't you noticed, for instance, whenever talking about anything bad the left has done, everyone on Fox says the same three words over and over again. You haven't noticed that? Please.

It's designed that way so everyone can remember those three things, repeat them, believe them, and thus they become true in the minds of many listeners.

You're being programmed. You should know you're entitled to better. How the entire Fox viewership isn't up in arms about how it's being treated is beyond me. You should be outraged, but you're not;you want to believe what you're hearing is true because you believe the same things. There's a difference between a belief and a fact.

You watch closely. You'll hear 9 facts and 1 belief hiding as a fact, as self evident. I've watched enough to see shoddy logic repeatedly from every person on Fox. It is sad and a shame and you deserve better.
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Everyone they get espousing liberal views is some combination of stupid, weak, wacko or all of the above. It makes it very easy for Fox to thus portray the Liberal as the fool.

Haven't you noticed, for instance, whenever talking about anything bad the left has done, everyone on Fox says the same three words over and over again. You haven't noticed that? Please.

It's designed that way so everyone can remember those three things, repeat them, believe them, and thus they become true in the minds of many listeners.

You're being programmed. You should know you're entitled to better. How the entire Fox viewership isn't up in arms about how it's being treated is beyond me. You should be outraged, but you're not;you want to believe what you're hearing is true because you believe the same things. There's a difference between a belief and a fact.

You watch closely. You'll hear 9 facts and 1 belief hiding as a fact, as self evident. I've watched enough to see shoddy logic repeatedly from every person on Fox. It is sad and a shame and you deserve better.
I don't watch Fox news. I don't really watch any news. For the record, every news-based show has a counterpoint useful idiot. Maher does it all the time, shows on MSNBC do it as well. That's about the only way anyone will ever ask McCain's daughter her opinion on anything.
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I don't watch Fox news. I don't really watch any news. For the record, every news-based show has a counterpoint useful idiot. Maher does it all the time, shows on MSNBC do it as well. That's about the only way anyone will ever ask McCain's daughter her opinion on anything.
So you listen to colmes on the radio and think he's a liberal? I only listen to NPR so wouldn't know where to find colmes now if I wanted to...which I don't.

Every show doesn't have a useful idiot...some actually have very knowledgeable folks on.

Fox viewers, notice how stupid those 'representing' Democratic views are ugly, stupid, poor speakers...and notice how they can't ever finish a sentence before they're interrupted or talked over. Watch.
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You'd fit right in!

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dmax I think you should chill out. Be honest, most news broadcasts are biased one way or the other. The sooner you realize and admit that, the sooner I can think you're not such a bafoon for thinking not.
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Please post the results of your in-depth investigations that prove Jon Stewart has ever been purposely misleading without retracting his mistake.

Take as much time as you need. I'll wait.
Wait while he googles the answer. He's full of ****.

And I though we already went through this? There was a imagine comparing headlines from Fox and other sources, and it actually alluded to apparent bias in the article names?
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So it's wrong for him to call it what it is?
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So it's wrong for him to call it what it is?
He's so bent on blasting Fox news that I have yet to see him admit the biases and misleading information provided by liberal broadcasts. In fact, I think he dodged a comment by AoG in this thread about that.

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Well, the others do report news; if Fox did any of that too, I wouldn't single it out!

I doubt many here that are smart enough to have a bmw would ever watch Fox, but just in case there are, I felt compelled to warn them. Some still don't have a clue, you know.
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Accolade, compare it against any other source...it doesn't matter.

But, of course, if you want a thorough accounting of the important news of the day, there are a number of sources, of course, but you should never limit yourself to just one. Try the New York Times...it's a newspaper regarded around the world as a reliable source. The Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago something or other.

Also, of course, the place a huge portion of the country gets its reliable news--The Daily Show and Colbert Report--even in the guise as entertainment, you have to know they both report things we should know that the mainstream media doesn't...either because it can't or it won't.

I admit to watching Fox years and years ago...until I started paying attention more. It's very good in how it does what it does, but once you know what it's up to, you'll never forgive it for its slighting of reliable news reporting. It's obviously nothing much more than an arm of the GOP...the PR arm. Its bias is legion; how can you not know this?
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YES!

The Wall Street Journal is now owned by the same POS that owns Fox News.

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Jon Stewart uses jokes to tell you the truth that you otherwise wouldn't hear or think about.

His coverage of the gun ban was brilliant; same for Colbert. We need fools...they're the only ones that can speak truth to power. Both serve a vital role in ensuring there's a vibrant dialogue in our country.

As to the NYTimes comment made...find me one case where the NYTimes printed an inaccurate story and didn't print a retraction, correction, or fire someone over it. It prints news...it doesn't make stuff up. There isn't a higher pinnacle in the world of journalism. It's the fn New York Times...try reading it online, since I assume you don't get it delivered.

Please don't pick news sources based on the amount of stories they tell you that you like or agree with...then you're picking entertainment.
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Second, I can't recall anything specific he's said, but he was only there as a foil...so it seemed Fox was fair and balanced...and he played, at best, as a centrist. His liberal views were fashioned for the show...he was the well-meaning, slightly stupid liberal, so all the Fox viewers had someone right there they could regard as an idiot. The real Liberals, compared to colmes, were thus painted as Communists.
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...and I'll point out for the first time, that Stewart has had 0'Reilly on many times, Huckabee, and many Republican representatives.

And, yes, I think your list above are all Centrist or right of Centrist, being paid well to pretend they're liberal. It's all staged, calculated, and I admit, very well devised.

Oh, 90% of what you hear on Fox might be true, but the problem is that that 10% is editorial masquerading as fact, and if you didn't know better, you'd believe it's the way things are. (BTW, I only watch Fox a little; I'm trying to get up to where I can view it for more than 5 minutes without vomiting. So far, I'm only up to 3 minutes.)
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Everyone they get espousing liberal views is some combination of stupid, weak, wacko or all of the above. It makes it very easy for Fox to thus portray the Liberal as the fool.

Haven't you noticed, for instance, whenever talking about anything bad the left has done, everyone on Fox says the same three words over and over again. You haven't noticed that? Please.

It's designed that way so everyone can remember those three things, repeat them, believe them, and thus they become true in the minds of many listeners.

You're being programmed. You should know you're entitled to better. How the entire Fox viewership isn't up in arms about how it's being treated is beyond me. You should be outraged, but you're not;you want to believe what you're hearing is true because you believe the same things. There's a difference between a belief and a fact.

You watch closely. You'll hear 9 facts and 1 belief hiding as a fact, as self evident. I've watched enough to see shoddy logic repeatedly from every person on Fox. It is sad and a shame and you deserve better.
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He's so bent on blasting Fox news .
Fox needs to be blasted. They're more full of sh*t than a christmas turkey.
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Wait while he googles the answer. He's full of ****.
I won't hold my breath. He'll houdini out of this thread and never even attempt to back that lie up. I appreciate the fox-y bulls*t that he dropped on us, though. Very clever.
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I usually have ham for Christmas and turkey for Thanksgiving. Regardless my turkey is usually stuffed with stuffing, cranberries, and apples.
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