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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:35 PM   #21
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I tried to pull on an Accord once...
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:27 PM   #22
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Thank all of you for keeping the "dumbest thread ever" alive! Like I said before, I was try'n to help him out. Did I poke fun at his comparison, yeah, maybe a little, but my intetions were pure. It sounds like he just doesn't think his car is fast. That's it. Case closed...Now go do some burnouts in the street!!
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:13 AM   #23
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NO...feels nothing like a Honda Accord....

Your friend probably just expected something faster from a 8k revving 3.2 inline 6...tell him to find a track, take both cars out and drive them as hard as he can and report back how similar they feel. If they still feel similar to him, tell him to sell that M3 and keep a Honda.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:09 PM   #24
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I feel the ///M driving experience is much more similar to the Kia Rio
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:14 PM   #25
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Comparing my (or any) M to an Accord at any RPM in any gear is like a kick in my dick.


I don't care if the Accord is made of crushed up unicorn horns, you ****ign offended me.


But to answer you, no. 3rd gear pulls hard. Errytime.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:15 PM   #26
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I feel the ///M driving experience is much more similar to the Kia Rio
you sure not a geo metro?
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:19 PM   #27
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Yes. I am also experiencing the same issue as the friend you are trying to help. My M3 also feels like an Accord very often As far as I know its a common issue. Tell him not to worry.
Uh. No. An M3 feeling like a Honda Accord is not a common issue.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:01 PM   #28
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Certainly no comparison - have a 2011 V6 Accord and the two feel nothing alike (in any category especially the engine dept). If he is having an issue in 3rd gear, I'd have a shop look at the car. Is it a manual or SMG car?
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:07 PM   #29
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Well I own 2 Hondas: a 94 civic & a 99 acura cl which is basically an accord coupé and a 04 M3 SMG.
the civic is faster than the M3 but it's heavily modified for road racing or fun track days it's Rotrex, but even if the Hondas are reliable & cheap to maintain. There is no way a stock accord can compare with a stock E46 M3 in any way shape or form. The engineering on the m3 chassis alone is superrior. Honda does makes amazing engines but they have not manufactured a K-series engine with six pistons yet. When they do then you could say power & torque wise they will out perform the s54 but that day won't come.

So tell your friend no.
An m3 is more vehicle than an accord parked, cruising & specially in the turns.

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Old 01-21-2013, 08:58 PM   #30
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Uh. No. An M3 feeling like a Honda Accord is not a common issue.
Hehehe. Caught one.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:13 PM   #31
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #32
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Well I own 2 Hondas: a 94 civic & a 99 acura cl which is basically an accord coupé and a 04 M3 SMG.
the civic is faster than the M3 but it's heavily modified for road racing or fun track days it's Rotrex, but even if the Hondas are reliable & cheap to maintain. There is no way a stock accord can compare with a stock E46 M3 in any way shape or form. The engineering on the m3 chassis alone is superrior. Honda does makes amazing engines but they have not manufactured a K-series engine with six pistons yet. When they do then you could say power & torque wise they will out perform the s54 but that day won't come.

So tell your friend no.
An m3 is more vehicle than an accord parked, cruising & specially in the turns.
Nice! What do you have done to this beast and do you have pics?
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:07 PM   #33
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Nice! What do you have done to this beast and do you have pics?
I'm posting from my phone I'll edit punctuation or whatever weird word the auto correction came up with later. It's hard to write long paragraph on a phone.

What haven't I done to it!. It is my Lego lol.
Plan is to make the M3 faster than it but maybe next year I'll start that rotrex project on the M3.

I can tune and work with aluminum metal so it's got a K-series 2.4 litter engine with a maxed out rotrex c38-71 plus boost by gear to help with traction on the lower gears since it is a FWD.

Every thing has been done by me or my friend which is a master tech. so i use civic as a learning toy.
But last time I put it on a scale it weighted 2150lbs so weight may have gone up with the supercharger, intercoller plus pipes & 6 piston calipers the wheels with toyo R888 tires to clear them. Maybe an extra 100lbs idk.

of the top of my head here is a list:

K24a4 stock but on vtec killer mode with type-s cams with the vtc "vanos" mechanically limited to 25°
type-s oil pump to allow it to rev to 8100rmp
tsx 6 speed gears
wavetrac LSD
competion twin disc clutch for 1000hp
K-pro ecu
ID 1000cc injectors
an -8 fuel lines
walbro 255hp in tank fuel pump + bosch 044 in line fuel pump
asp 2.4L big tube header with 3" magaphone collector
3" exhaust
3" intercooler pipes
13 row bar & plate intercooler
70mm throttle body
RBC intake manifold port matched to throttle body
synapse bov & wastegate. yes i said wastegate.
mac solenoid for the ecu to control the wastegate.
rotrex c38-71 with pulleys maxed out for 8100rpm about 14 to 15 psi
custom 3row radiator for 750hp
custom engine mounts a90 bushings
custom amr coilovers valved for up to 950 lbs springs but now running 550lbs F & 650 lbs R
ITR rear 21mm sway bar.
rear sub frame brace.
traction bar.
Bennen try pod shock tower brace.
15x8 wheels on toyo r888
wilwood 6 piston calipers with 21mm spacers to clear the wheels
two piece 11.78" rotors with aluminum hats
HP hawk black brake pads
quiet exhaust
no interior, no A/C, no heater core, no carpet pretty much gutted. track car status but still road legal.
soon i'll fabricate the roll cage.

I haven't dyno it jet & I'm still street tuning it. so far only on 10psi with boost cut when it reaches 10psi for safety because the factory map sensor only reads accurate up to 10psi & it's reaching 10psi at 6,200rpm but this setup combination makes around 290wtq & around 450whp at 14psi. so this on a chassis about 1,200lbs lighter than my M3 the butt dyno notices right away.
I decided not to keep on tuning cause I'm using a bone stock engine for experiment & even the k-series is an amazing engine that can handle 600+ whp stock for drag. the stress it goes road racing is way more. so I decided to either replace the rods on it for peace of mind. Or take my other mild built all motor K24 and lower the compression to handle the 14psi on 93 pump gas or E85.

When it was on the N/A 2.4L making at the dyno 274whp & 202wtq it was a blast to drive imagine now even with a red line of 6200rpm & 10psi. I may order the 3bar map sensor and dyno it just to see the final numbers, but track it after the rods are replaced.

But it's annoying to drive on traffic because of the twin disc clutch. How I wish it was SMG equipped :-)

I'll take a picture next to the M3 later on this week.

all I've learned over the years will be applied to the M3 sooner than later.

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