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Old 09-19-2014, 09:43 PM   #1
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What the hell are these white things

Keep finding these little white specks on the coffee maker near where the grounds go in. Looked at them under the microscope - this is about 100X mag. They are about .025" long. Clean it up and they reappear the next day.

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Old 09-19-2014, 09:44 PM   #2
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It looks brown/black to me
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:44 PM   #3
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I don't drink coffee so I wouldn't know.

Are you talking about the brown object in the center of your area of focus?
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Yeah, sorry. They appear black under the microscope due to the backlighting and the camera, but they are in fact white.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:47 PM   #5
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:47 PM   #6
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1. You have a microscope.
2. Does steam get to that area? Could it be some sort of mineral buildup?

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Old 09-19-2014, 09:51 PM   #8
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Sounds like mineral buildup?

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/questions/635017

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/407625

Try cleaning with a vinegar solution.
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Not sure what it is, but I wouldn't want to drink it. Run some vinegar/water through your coffee maker and see if they go away.
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Yeah... well mineral buildup is usually crystalline and will build up around where the water goes, but this is just right on top near the filter cone. A random speckling, with no pattern.

Is that what a maggot looks like? Or some kind of egg?
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Any photos of the coffee maker itself? White spots usually mean mineral buildup...I think the microscopic view is throwing people off.

Also, do you pour tap or filtered water into the coffee maker?
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1. You have a microscope.
2. Does steam get to that area? Could it be some sort of mineral buildup?

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Here's where they show up. On top, along the flat black plastic area where that little circle shape is.



It's hard water from the faucet. Wouldn't hard water spots be a ring shape where it dried? These aren't attached to anything, just sitting there.
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It's hard water from the faucet. Wouldn't hard water spots be a ring shape where it dried? These aren't attached to anything, just sitting there.
Not necessarily, they can be all sorts of shapes. If it's on the outside, maybe try cleaning it up with rubbing alcohol and then switch to filtered water.

When I used tap in my electric kettle, I would get a buildup of white spots inside and out too wherever the water splashed. Switching to filtered water resolved it for me.
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Hard water deposits are mineral deposits...

Can't see clearly enough to tell what it is. Can you take a front lit image?

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1. You have a microscope.
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Probably just mineral buildup from hard water. Use some water softener or use packaged water if it concerns you.

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We call water "hard" if it contains a lot of calcium, magnesium or other minerals. Groundwater acquires these metals by dissolving them from surrounding soil and rock. Industry measures water hardness in terms of grains per gallon (GPG) or milligrams per liter (mg/L). A grain is defined as 64.8 milligrams of calcium carbonate [source: Business Dictionary]. If your water tests at 1 GPG (17.1 mg/L) or less, then you have soft water. Water around 1-3.5 GPG (17.1-60 mg/L) occupies a gray zone between soft and slightly hard water and 3.5-7 GPG (60-120 mg/L) is moderately hard. Hard water is around 7-10.5 GPG (120 - 180 mg/L), and very hard water is above that [source: Water Quality Association].

How do all those number affect you? Hard water causes two problems:

1. Dissolved calcium and magnesium precipitate out of hard water as scale, which builds up on the insides of pipes, water heaters, tea kettles, coffee makers and industrial machinery. Scale reduces flow through pipes and is a poor conductor of heat. Eventually, pipes can become completely clogged.

2. Hard water reduces soap's ability to lather, whether in the shower, sink, dishwasher or washing machine, and reacts with soap to form a sticky scum.
You can combat hard water in various ways, including filtering it by distillation or reverse osmosis, adding a packaged chemical softener such as powdered borax or washing soda (sodium carbonate), or running it through a water softener.

Filtration in sink taps and refrigerator water dispensers improves water's taste, but its steep price tag makes it impractical as a household solution. Packaged chemicals soften water in small batches, such as washing machine loads, but render the water undrinkable, take a toll on clothes, and, in some cases, contain phosphates that harm the environment.

Descaling offers an alternative to water softening. Whereas a water softener removes the problem (minerals in the water), a descaler addresses the damage caused by the problem (scale buildup). You will sometimes see ads for "salt-free water softeners," which are actually descalers, or for magnetic water softeners, which remain unproven and don't change the chemical composition of water, so buyer beware [source: Powell].

With all this in mind, it's clear why water softeners are so popular: They remain the least costly and most effective way to rid your water of troublesome minerals.
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