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Old 06-23-2013, 10:53 AM   #1
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BBQ guys. Chime in.

I've been using propane to BBQ. Gota weber that I love. My friend has been trying to get me to get a cheap charcoal one to grill. Is it worth it? Does it add that much flavor?


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Old 06-24-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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Absolutely. No comparison. Gas in convenient, but flavor wise it's a Yugo vs a Bentley. Not only that, if you like those nicely seared steaks and such, charcoal gets MUCH MUCH hotter. It does require more skill, but once you learn, it's game over. Also, whatever grill you buy (doesn't matter) just make sure the grates are 100% uncoated cast iron. No stainless steel, no ceramic coating, nothing. Pure cast iron.

Something like this would work well.

http://www.amazon.com/Char-Griller-2...ef=pd_sbs_lg_5

If you want more cooking area
http://www.amazon.com/Char-Griller-2...ef=pd_sbs_lg_2
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:22 AM   #3
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Oh, and I strongly advise against the combo grills (gas/charcoal.) The reliability is sh!t. The coal dust eventually clogs up the burners and renders them useless. Also moisture in the air mixed with ash creates lye, which eats through the crap metal the burners are made out of.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:39 PM   #5
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I use a Weber 22.5" One Touch Gold. Worth every dime x 10. It's got no cast iron grate but I think that's just gilding a lily.



The charcoal you use is important. Sure, Kingsford briquettes are good. They burn long and steady. But for flavor I go for real wood.
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And I like to throw some soaked apple or hickory wood chunks right onto the coals for a little extra something.
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I use a Weber 22.5" One Touch Gold. Worth every dime x 10. It's got no cast iron grate but I think that's just gilding a lily.



The charcoal you use is important. Sure, Kingsford briquettes are good. They burn long and steady. But for flavor I go for real wood.
Nothing beats:


And I like to throw some soaked apple or hickory wood chunks right onto the coals for a little extra something.
Those are indeed excellent grills but my main beef with them is the shape. Since it's a circle, if you are cooking a lot of long things (like 5 racks of ribs) you lose space and sections of your meat dangle away from the heat. They need to make the same grill in rectangular form.
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Those are indeed excellent grills but my main beef with them is the shape. Since it's a circle, if you are cooking a lot of long things (like 5 racks of ribs) you lose space and sections of your meat dangle away from the heat. They need to make the same grill in rectangular form.
I can certainly see your point. I can't say I've ever been in a situation where I needed five racks of ribs done in short order. If I had more sons in the teen years I would have to seriously consider an upgrade. 90% of the time I grill it's just for my wife, our 4 year old son and myself. I have a good sized hot zone with plenty of cooking room to spare.

I used to have a large drum grill like you posted... with the side smoker box even. It was ok. I found the main issue there was temperature control. Adding charcoal was always a pain in the posterior. That and rust.
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Those are indeed excellent grills but my main beef with them is the shape. Since it's a circle, if you are cooking a lot of long things (like 5 racks of ribs) you lose space and sections of your meat dangle away from the heat. They need to make the same grill in rectangular form.
The Weber Ranch Kettle solves that (awesome) problem




It's ridiculously expensive, though, for what it is.
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I saw this in Target one day and it intrigued me.



It's smaller than the Weber 22" but the versatile cooking grate inserts and initial $130 price tag makes this a nifty little grill. Still not sure how well the temp management functions on this. Looks like adding more coals would be a problem.
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It's smaller than the Weber 22" but the versatile cooking grate inserts and initial $130 price tag makes this a nifty little grill. Still not sure how well the temp management functions on this. Looks like adding more coals would be a problem.
Meh. Too fancy for me. A charcoal grill for me needs nothing. Hell give me half a 55gallon drum with a grate and I'm good to go. If you own your own home, you can build an awesome grill with some bricks and a grate.


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Propane is for Amateurs. That's not grilling, that's a fancy stove top that you use outside.
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still think OT would be a lot better if they allowed food threads in main OT. don't get the views here.
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still think OT would be a lot better if they allowed food threads in main OT. don't get the views here.
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I can certainly see your point. I can't say I've ever been in a situation where I needed five racks of ribs done in short order. If I had more sons in the teen years I would have to seriously consider an upgrade. 90% of the time I grill it's just for my wife, our 4 year old son and myself. I have a good sized hot zone with plenty of cooking room to spare.

I used to have a large drum grill like you posted... with the side smoker box even. It was ok. I found the main issue there was temperature control. Adding charcoal was always a pain in the posterior. That and rust.
Rust is an issue, but they are generally cheap, and every few years I usually get a new one. If the grates are in good shape, I can usually stretch them to almost 5 years. Mine usually last around 3 (current Master Forge is running on 2.5) but that is due to the fact that I never keep them covered. They get rained on constantly.

Again, what you posted is an excellent grill. I have used them for years. Well made, simple enough for anyone to use, and produces great food (although I wish the rack wasn't stainless.) I regularly cook for 10+ people, so for me, it just wouldn't work. If you need a small grill for a small family, yours would definitely fit the bill.

As for adding charcoal, I have never cooked long enough where I needed to, and you are right, it wouldn't be super easy on the grills I posted, but still doable.

Oh, and I don't know how serious you boys are with the grilling, but only the ones I posted can accept a rotisserie.
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My brother in law is storing some stuff at our house as he sorts out his housing situation . . including his Weber charcoal grill. I've been cooking up a storm on that thing for the last 3 months. The flavor and heat are fantastic compared to propane, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass and more of a fire danger.

Although the round grill is kinda small . . it's awesome in that you can use a spatula or tongs to spin the whole grill, rotating your food on and off your direct heat without actually touching the meat. Pretty nifty.
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My brother in law is storing some stuff at our house as he sorts out his housing situation . . including his Weber charcoal grill. I've been cooking up a storm on that thing for the last 3 months. The flavor and heat are fantastic compared to propane, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass and more of a fire danger.

Although the round grill is kinda small . . it's awesome in that you can use a spatula or tongs to spin the whole grill, rotating your food on and off your direct heat without actually touching the meat. Pretty nifty.
Fire danger? I'll take 100% controllable charcoal to an exploding propane tank anyday. It's only a fire danger if you do something really REALLY stupid.
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