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Old 01-23-2013, 08:41 AM   #1
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Never say never

Make sure you buy what you want now.
Not encouraging anything illegal, but buy privately
if you can in your state outside of FFL, again, if legal.

Personally, I'm taking some time off to make sure all my supplies are
stocked up. Whether this passes or not

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Did you read the article Jonjon? Or do you get panicked by titles (the same way people panic over cosmetics)?

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The California Democrat intends to expand on the ban that expired in 2004, by including handguns and shotguns, in addition to rifles. She would decrease from two to one the number of cosmetic features on a gun to have it be considered an “assault weapon.” This means that if a gun has just one item like a pistol grip or bayonet lug, then it is illegal. Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law the same ban in New York last week.

Furthermore, instead of grandfathering in current firearms, she would create a national gun registry for the government to track lawful gun owners. Magazines would again be limited to 10 rounds.
will NEVER pass at a federal level.

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I'm amazed at how retarded the ideas that these politicians come up with are. I heard the story below on my local news last night. They want parents to tell their children's school if they own guns.

WTF is that going to do besides unnecessarily target my kids for unfair scrutiny....after all, once they have a list of kids whose parents own guns, they will surely be looking at them in a different light.

The reasoning behind it is such BS. They want to help ensure we are storing firearms safely, etc. blah blah blah....since when did educators know how to best store firearms in my house? Efffff that.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...storyid=358395

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ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Ever since the horrific school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, gun control has been a hot topic. Now comes word of a Missouri lawmaker who wants any parent who owns guns to notify their child's school.

The lawmaker says she hopes the already filed bill will bring awareness to schools and to parents about keeping their guns locked up.

It's the next idea in a long list of proposed ideas for gun control, making it mandatory for parents to notify their child's school about their gun supply.

"I am not trying to take away the gun rights of any parents or any other citizens I believe in the second amendment," says State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal.

She says she wants the violence in schools to stop and this is just one different idea that no one has brought up.

"It encourages parents to make sure they store their guns safely in their home, it also gives the school districts the opportunity to help encourage gun safety in the community and in the household," says the Senator.

"I agree with it, we need to know because a lot of parents aren't governing their homes properly," says parent Danaelle Stidum.


Some parents say the bill doesn't focus the attention on the parents that need to be focused on.

"It concerns me a bit because I think the parents that would have no problem registering the guns aren't the ones you have to worry about, I think it's the ones who don't or who are obtained by the students without their parents knowledge that's the concern," says parent Bill Koster.


The principal of Brentwood High School says the information may help the police more than the school district and what about blaming a parent for guns in their house they don't even know about?

"Maybe a student obtaining a weapon without the parent even knowing about it," says Principal Don Rugraff.

"I understand what they are trying to do, but making us notify them if we have guns is not going to deter the behavior what makes people do what they do with guns," says parent Kris Mills.

This proposal is one of only a handful in Missouri's house and senate. NewsChannel 5's political analyst Dave Robertson told me he's surprised that there aren't more bills being proposed about gun control, but the chances of any bills about the issue being passed is slim to none because of the political atmosphere between the lawmakers and the governor.
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And these people keep getting re-elected
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I'm amazed at how retarded the ideas that these politicians come up with are. I heard the story below on my local news last night. They want parents to tell their children's school if they own guns.

WTF is that going to do besides unnecessarily target my kids for unfair scrutiny....after all, once they have a list of kids whose parents own guns, they will surely be looking at them in a different light.

The reasoning behind it is such BS. They want to help ensure we are storing firearms safely, etc. blah blah blah....since when did educators know how to best store firearms in my house? Efffff that.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...storyid=358395

Proposed Mo. bill: Make parents tell school if they own guns


I saw that this morning, too. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that passes in MO.

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Because people are idiots. They'll vote for a name that sounds familiar with ZERO basis on what that person has done for them (or to them).
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I'm pretty stocked up. I'm still looking for a nice .308 semi auto rifle. I have 2k rounds of .223 now, 2k rounds of .22lr, 1k rounds of 9mm, 1k rounds of 10mm, 1k rounds of .45acp and 100 rounds of 300 win mag. I also have 8 30 round AR'15 mags. Anyone know where I can get Glock 20 15 round mags?
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Should we start digging our bunkers, too? Did I wander on FoxNews?
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Should we start digging our bunkers, too? Did I wander on FoxNews?
No, I think most of us are just stocking up because of the possible shortage of ammo and mags or a possible tax increase on them.
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No, I think most of us are just stocking up because of the possible shortage of ammo and mags or a possible tax increase on them.
That's common sense. It's also common sense that the above is a self-fulfilling prophecy (I better stock up in case of shortage that results in a shortage) It's also common sense that some stupid proposal will get tossed out of court.

You want sh1t to calm down? Stop adding to the problem.
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That's common sense. It's also common sense that the above is a self-fulfilling prophecy (I better stock up in case of shortage that results in a shortage) It's also common sense that some stupid proposal will get tossed out of court.

You want sh1t to calm down? Stop adding to the problem.
The '94 banned passed. Why wouldn't we expect our politicians to pass at least equal legislation if not even more restrictive? They have already proven themselves capable of doing so once.

Feinstein's particular bill won't pass since it is too crazy for most people, but it will certainly set the grounds for negotiation.
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The '94 banned passed. Why wouldn't we expect our politicians to pass at least equal legislation if not even more restrictive? They have already proven themselves capable of doing so once.

Feinstein's particular bill won't pass since it is too crazy for most people, but it will certainly set the grounds for negotiation.
Because we now have 10 years of a national ban of evidence to cite. Sure, there's always a chance, but I don't think they'll get something in stone by the time another president is in office. They'll propose something, it'll get tossed, they'll edit, tossed. Then they'll take more time to get it right, then they won't have the media in their favor, blah blah blah

People saying otherwise are just making things worse.
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Because we now have 10 years of a national ban of evidence to cite. Sure, there's always a chance, but I don't think they'll get something in stone by the time another president is in office. They'll propose something, it'll get tossed, they'll edit, tossed. Then they'll take more time to get it right, then they won't have the media in their favor, blah blah blah

People saying otherwise are just making things worse.
People like you who think everything is going to get tossed, make things worse. Rights get taken when people fail to act. I'm sure New Yorkers never thought they would have such strict gun laws.
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Make sure you buy what you want now.
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People like you who think everything is going to get tossed, make things worse. Rights get taken when people fail to act. I'm sure New Yorkers never thought they would have such strict gun laws.
Give me one way 'what I do' makes things worse. Just one. What way would owning an assault rifle during a ban benefit you more than a person that doesn't? Zombies? Hitler taking over the country?

Give me a break, these scares are justifications for people's need to buy more sh1t, end of story.


However, what YOU do does have many repercussions. People buying ammo that don't even own a gun just to make more money. Inflation. Media coverage that sparks more shootings.

Buying something that could be banned from being produced forever I can understand. Buying ammo like crazy when ammo will always be built, is stupid. Once you have enough, buying more is useless unless you're just going to the range a lot. Sure, 1000 zombies tomorrow could invade our country, but this isn't a movie.
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Because we now have 10 years of a national ban of evidence to cite. Sure, there's always a chance, but I don't think they'll get something in stone by the time another president is in office. They'll propose something, it'll get tossed, they'll edit, tossed. Then they'll take more time to get it right, then they won't have the media in their favor, blah blah blah

People saying otherwise are just making things worse.
I hear you about having the data under the previous AWB, but I'm inclined to think that is going to hurt us rather than help us. By that I think anti-gunners are going to want to impose stricter regulations since the previous AWB wasn't tough enough in their eyes, using the data as evidence.

I don't see it being less restrictive than the '94 ban and I don't think anyone should sit back and think otherwise until this mess is sorted out.
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I hear you about having the data under the previous AWB, but I'm inclined to think that is going to hurt us rather than help us. By that I think anti-gunners are going to want to impose stricter regulations since the previous AWB wasn't tough enough in their eyes, using the data as evidence.

I don't see it being less restrictive than the '94 ban and I don't think anyone should sit back and think otherwise until this mess is sorted out.
The only problem with that, is there isn't any evidence that making the '94 ban more strict would do a better job. I doubt there's someone that could win that debate against someone with evidence it didn't work. Possible, but highly unlikely imo.
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That's what people said in 1993 as well.
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That's what people said in 1993 as well.
20 years ago. No surprise though. Some believe we are back in 1933 or 1924.
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