The new m4

everyone on this thread is so nice to each other.

Last BMW that looks like a BMW is the e46. All new ones are disgusting IMO

Originally Posted by aphil06

Amazing aggressive look. I would sign up to grab one if it looks anything like this but it will prob be 90k or something ridiculous.

So what you are saying it BMW is going to put the M4 in the M6 category? This car won't be much more expensive than the current M3 coupe available... they have a target market to keep happy with this car.

The real questions concerning the new M3/M4 will be:

(1) Will it maintain an "M" specific engine, or just be a worked-over version of the standard 335i's turbo 6?

(2) Will it have the deadened electronic power-steering assist that is plaguing the new 3 series, or will it maintain hydraulic assist?

(3) Will it have grown too big physically to be able to be really tossable?

These are my real concerns, as I note that every generation of the 3 series has grown slightly larger and slightly less tactilly engaging than its predecessor. Even our e46 M3's, while a great compromise between power, performance, comfort, and connectedness, do not provide the same steering feel as the original e30.

(1) Will it maintain an "M" specific engine, or just be a worked-over version of the standard 335i's turbo 6?

This would technically be going back to M roots. I have a feeling it is going to be based off the N54 architecture. It is a twin turbo engine, not triple.

(2) Will it have the deadened electronic power-steering assist that is plaguing the new 3 series, or will it maintain hydraulic assist?

It will be hydraulic.

(3) Will it have grown too big physically to be able to be really tossable?

The M6 is still tossable, don't see why the M3/M4 won't be as well.

Tim

Originally Posted by tim330i

This would technically be going back to M roots. I have a feeling it is going to be based off the N54 architecture. It is a twin turbo engine, not triple.



It will be hydraulic.



The M6 is still tossable, don't see why the M3/M4 won't be as well.

Tim

Although the M5/M6 is tossable, one of the things that happens with heavy performance cars is the tires get fatigued and to overheat more quickly. This means they can't be consistent lap after lap. Just how I understand it.

I love the M5/M6 though!! While I think weight is inevitable, and that BMW remains competitive (if not a leader in weight) I think BMW does need to come down a little on the weight of future cars. Nothing unreasonable. 200 lbs?

Originally Posted by E46Mango

I think BMW does need to come down a little on the weight of future cars. Nothing unreasonable. 200 lbs?

The F80 M3 and F82 M4 will be lighter. I've been told this by several German M guys. They know they can't keep making a heavier car and have it perform as well.

Tim