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Old 01-27-2013, 02:59 PM   #21
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Its impossible for either of us to say for certain what actually happened. DSC is pretty great, but I don't think it can correct for an immediate Scandinavian flick on the highway.
It can. Trust me
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:21 PM   #22
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I wouldn't know. I have been turning it off every time I step into my BMW's for years.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:46 PM   #23
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I wouldn't know. I have been turning it off every time I step into my BMW's for years.
In the snow I like to randomly throw my steering wheel in either direction to have it react. It's fun to watch how well it handles it.
It also won't let you spin your car. I've tested it out a few times. It will only let your car get a certain degree sideways. It will make you powerslide out but won't let you spin.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:05 PM   #24
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if i recall correctly, 2000 323ci's still had asc and not dsc. Does your button say dsc or asc?
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:06 PM   #25
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00 E46s that I've seen have DSC.

OP- Im glad to hear you're okay, but is there any chance that your DSC is not working or you shut it off?
Well I always have the DSC light turned on because I though that meant its on but apparently not.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:13 PM   #26
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Well I always have the DSC light turned on because I though that meant its on but apparently not.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:22 PM   #27
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If I recall correctly, 2000 323ci's still had ASC and not DSC. Does your button say DSC or ASC?
2000 323i's have DSC as well (not a standard feature).
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:24 PM   #28
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:40 PM   #29
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In the snow I like to randomly throw my steering wheel in either direction to have it react. It's fun to watch how well it handles it.
It also won't let you spin your car. I've tested it out a few times. It will only let your car get a certain degree sideways. It will make you powerslide out but won't let you spin.
Youve tested this at 80 mph? Nothing is fool proof, At 80 mph a quick flick of the steering wheel either way at the right time could get a car with even the best Traction control to spin out, With your logic a BMW with DSC on would never lose control
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:15 PM   #30
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Youve tested this at 80 mph? Nothing is fool proof, At 80 mph a quick flick of the steering wheel either way at the right time could get a car with even the best Traction control to spin out, With your logic a BMW with DSC on would never lose control
If you take your car on a dry runway at 80 mph and lock the steering wheel in either direction as hard as you can, it will not spin out. There's endless variables that can cause you to loose traction and I'm sure there's a situation where the car can spin. Like maybe on pure ice.
But you can not, ever, get your car to spin on dry pavement or consistently wet pavement at any speed. Be it 10 mph or 130 mph.
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If you take your car on a dry runway at 80 mph and lock the steering wheel in either direction as hard as you can, it will not spin out. There's endless variables that can cause you to loose traction and I'm sure there's a situation where the car can spin. Like maybe on pure ice.
But you can not, ever, get your car to spin on dry pavement or consistently wet pavement at any speed. Be it 10 mph or 130 mph.
If you don't counter-steer it will spin
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2000 323i's have DSC as well (not a standard feature).
Gotcha. It must have been a small first-batch run of 2000 323i's. In 2000 some time it changed to DSC. I've seen a few select 2000 323i's with an ASC button.

Just wondering. I've been trying to determine how well DSC works in real-world scenarios, and hearing stories like this makes me curious.

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Well I always have the DSC light turned on because I though that meant its on but apparently not.
Never mind. That answers my question.

This is why auto makers have put the "OFF" button next to those switches (or even on the light itself), because people have gotten confused by it. I was driving with a kid going down a snowy mountain and he hit the ESC button, which turned the slipping car icon on. I asked him why he would turn it off, he said you hit that button when it's snowing or slippery. I explained to him how it's the complete opposite.
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If you take your car on a dry runway at 80 mph and lock the steering wheel in either direction as hard as you can, it will not spin out. There's endless variables that can cause you to loose traction and I'm sure there's a situation where the car can spin. Like maybe on pure ice.
But you can not, ever, get your car to spin on dry pavement or consistently wet pavement at any speed. Be it 10 mph or 130 mph.
Your ignorant.
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Glad I finally know for sure now haha.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:58 PM   #36
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If you don't counter-steer it will spin
There's no need to counter steer with dsc. it won't let the back out far enough.
I'm not really talking about a throttle on situation. It won't let the back out whether you're on, or off the gas.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:59 PM   #37
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Your ignorant.
I hope this is an attempt at sarcasm with your typo.
Everything I said is true. I've experienced it. I doubt many others have, or even understand the full capability of DSC. it's worlds ahead of a typical traction control system.
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Yea what happened was my car started to loose traction in the back and the front started to turn left towards the wall. My only reaction trying to save the car was to turn the steering wheel right to not hit the wall. I also forgot to mention Im have used tires in the back, another big factor.
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Yea what happened was my car started to loose traction in the back and the front started to turn left towards the wall. My only reaction trying to save the car was to turn the steering wheel right to not hit the wall. I also forgot to mention Im have used tires in the back, another big factor.
That shouldnt matter, you have DSC Its impossible to lose control and crash, even if you where using water melons as tires
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:11 PM   #40
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The day I got my drivers license I was headed home in the left lane (probably going about 75), when the truck in the right lane about one hundred yards in front of me had a blowout. There was smoke everywhere and all I saw was the remnants of his big ass tire flying into my lane. I nailed my brakes and flew onto the shoulder (less than a foot from the wall), and luckily missed both the tire and the wall. I knew that my E46 doesn't have the ground clearance to accommodate such a large obstacle. Thank god I was paying attention and the DSC kicked in when I swerved into the shoulder.
You should a large 4x4plank coming off T back of A lorry I did i had been watching it bouncing on B of lorry for a mile droped back a100yards when it came spinning off it was going from side to side on T road I waited till it was near me and went around It ( this happend at 60 MPH )THE car behind me was not so lucky , I seen him in my mirror going into a field trying to avoid It! (maybe it will teach him not to TAILGATE ) FRED
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