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Old 01-27-2013, 08:14 PM   #41
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Yea what happened was my car started to loose traction in the back and the front started to turn left towards the wall. My only reaction trying to save the car was to turn the steering wheel right to not hit the wall. I also forgot to mention Im have used tires in the back, another big factor.
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I hope this is an attempt at sarcasm with your typo.
Everything I said is true. I've experienced it. I doubt many others have, or even understand the full capability of DSC. it's worlds ahead of a typical traction control system.
So you're going to tell me that at 80 mph, with the wheel quickly tossed to the left then spun to full right lock AND with the rear tires hydroplaning with 0% traction that the magical DSC electronic actuations of the brakes will somehow magically overcome the momentum of a 3,400lb car which has already lost control?

Okay. Whatever dude.

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Old 01-27-2013, 08:17 PM   #42
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So you're going to tell me that at 80 mph, with the wheel quickly tossed to the left then spun to full right lock AND with the rear tires hydroplaning with 0% traction that the magical DSC electronic actuations of the brakes will somehow magically overcome the momentum of a 3,400lb car which has already lost control?

Okay. Whatever dude.
I didn't say that. I said in either dry, or consistently wet conditions. Meaning all 4 tires in the same amount of wet.
If you can spin your car in dry, or consistently wet conditions. Ill come see you, and learn your magic ways because you're a wizard.
Yes a can with dsc can loose control in the form of understeer or powerslide in dry. But it WILL NOT spin under any circumstances on a paved, dry road. End of story

I said in my first post that there are variables that may cause the car to spin such as huge puddles or pure ice. But on a consistently wet, or completely dry surface, the car will not spin.
Don't believe me, try it out guys.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:23 PM   #43
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I didn't say that. I said in either dry, or consistently wet conditions. Meaning all 4 tires in the same amount of wet.
If you can spin your car in dry, or consistently wet conditions. Ill come see you, and learn your magic ways because you're a wizard.
Yes a can with dsc can loose control in the form of understeer or powerslide in dry. But it WILL NOT spin under any circumstances on a paved, dry road. End of story

I said in my first post that there are variables that may cause the car to spin such as huge puddles or pure ice. But on a consistently wet, or completely dry surface, the car will not spin.
Don't believe me, try it out guys.
Do you have any proof to back these statements? If the DSC is as mighty as you say it is im sure BMW would have marketed It in a very similar way that you are telling its magical powers to us
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Yea what happened was my car started to loose traction in the back and the front started to turn left towards the wall. My only reaction trying to save the car was to turn the steering wheel right to not hit the wall. I also forgot to mention Im have used tires in the back, another big factor.
the best way to get traction is put the peadle to the metel ( burn rubber if you have any )
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:38 PM   #45
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Do you have any proof to back these statements? If the DSC is as mighty as you say it is im sure BMW would have marketed It in a very similar way that you are telling its magical powers to us
They test all kinds of stuff, but they're just another line of defense. There's no telling what will actually happen in the real world. If they guaranteed that the car would never slide or roll over, then they would have to deal with angry customers asking why they nearly totaled their car on the highway in the rain with bad tires.



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Old 01-27-2013, 08:40 PM   #46
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Do you have any proof to back these statements? If the DSC is as mighty as you say it is im sure BMW would have marketed It in a very similar way that you are telling its magical powers to us
Look up over 100 videos of testing dude. It's common knowledge. Like I said, there's endless variables but the things I say are true.
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Gotcha. It must have been a small first-batch run of 2000 323i's. In 2000 some time it changed to DSC. I've seen a few select 2000 323i's with an ASC button.

Just wondering. I've been trying to determine how well DSC works in real-world scenarios, and hearing stories like this makes me curious.



Never mind. That answers my question.

This is why auto makers have put the "OFF" button next to those switches (or even on the light itself), because people have gotten confused by it. I was driving with a kid going down a snowy mountain and he hit the ESC button, which turned the slipping car icon on. I asked him why he would turn it off, he said you hit that button when it's snowing or slippery. I explained to him how it's the complete opposite.
It's interesting because our 2006 E90 is equipped with DTC instead of DSC. I wonder why BMW felt the need to change?
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:56 PM   #48
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It's interesting because our 2006 E90 is equipped with DTC instead of DSC. I wonder why BMW felt the need to change?
It's just labeled differently.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:16 PM   #49
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It's just labeled differently.
That's what I figured, but wondered if they were two entirely different systems.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:19 PM   #50
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That shouldnt matter, you have DSC Its impossible to lose control and crash, even if you where using water melons as tires
Derp.

OP shut his DSC off.

He thought pushing the button to turn the light on- means DSC is on!
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Derp.

OP shut his DSC off.

He thought pushing the button to turn the light on- means DSC is on!
Haha yup, I always had my suspicions about that.
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the best way to get traction is put the peadle to the metel ( burn rubber if you have any )
Next time for sure lol.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:28 PM   #53
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Sounds like more luck than anything, but congrats on walking away without any damage to the car or yourself.

I would have bought a lottery ticket after something like that.
I think I will good idea.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:53 PM   #54
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If I recall correctly, 2000 323ci's still had ASC and not DSC. Does your button say DSC or ASC?
I have a 2000 328CI with ASC. I can't remember the cut off date of the change though. I think the 2000's built in 1999 had ASC I believe. Mine was built in October 1999.
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I have a 2000 328CI with ASC. I can't remember the cut off date of the change though. I think the 2000's built in 1999 had ASC I believe. Mine was built in October 1999.
My sedan was built in February 2000 (I believe), which makes me think that all vehicles built in 2000 had DSC as opposed to the ones built in 1999 which had ASC.
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Never that, Ill fight for my car. Gonna have to jump me.
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I think it will just be towed for stupidity
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I learned my lesson though, gonna keep it under 65 in the rain now for sure.
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I learned my lesson though, gonna keep it under 65 in the rain now for sure.
Inb4 op makes another thread......

My car is totally fvcked up. I might of been speeding.
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