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Old 02-01-2013, 09:39 AM   #1
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IRS: Cheapest obamacare plan will be $20k per family

I hope this link works, I had to post from my phone.

http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/ir...e-20000-family

So this is what people get to look forward to?

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #2
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Might have read it wrong, but I saw it as a $2k/person cap (allowable max deduction) for the Bronze plan, but maybe I read it incorrectly.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:29 PM   #3
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CNS News?

Really?

Please stop posting horseshlt from the web's #2 rightwing propaganda site.

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Info, I believe, is directly from the irs
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Info, I believe, is directly from the irs
Indeed

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Old 02-02-2013, 01:37 AM   #6
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You really think that people going to be forced pay $4000 EACH for healthcare?

Nutjobs & idiots - everywhere.
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We're all in it together. It's an all or nothing deal. Now hold my hand and sing kum ba ya with me. No one said compassion was going to be cheap.
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Might have read it wrong, but I saw it as a $2k/person cap (allowable max deduction) for the Bronze plan, but maybe I read it incorrectly.
It estimates that the max penalty one might pay for being uninsured is ~$2000. OP is saying that the plan price is estimated at $20k, which is probably in the ballpark.

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Yes!

Each of the 5 members of your family will be forced to pay $350 a month for insurance.

Each.

I know people are dishonest enough to claim this is true. Is anyone stupid enough to believe it?
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Yes!

Each of the 5 members of your family will be forced to pay $350 a month for insurance.

Each.

I know people are dishonest enough to claim this is true. Is anyone stupid enough to believe it?
What are you talking about? The options are:

1.) Do not have health insurance, and pay a yearly penalty of ~$2000 to the government.

2.) Have health insurance. The "cost" of the policy depends on if you pay for it 100%, or your company pays part of it, or (if below income thresholds) the government will subsidize it.

This article is more about how the government intends to value a health care plan for taxation purposes.

Lair, you are self-employed, correct? Do you pay 100% of your insurance? What is your monthly premium? I looked at BCBS for my family a few years ago and it was $1400/month. I currently pay $350/month, and my company pays the rest (I have no idea what the percentage break-down between my and their cost is - I have ben trying to find that out, to no avail).

The bottom line is - How much does a healthcare plan cost? And how are people of different income brackets going to pay for the health care required?
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CNS will tell you everything you need to know about healthcare.
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I guess it's a good thing that one congress can't bind another.

Lair, can you show me how this is inaccurate?

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You and CNS are making the claim. Can you prove that it's accurate?
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Ah yes, answer a question with a question. Tip top work, lair. Tip top.

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Prove that each member of a family (on average) will have to pay $350 a month per year for health coverage or st fu.

What's that? Can't do it?

Didn't think so.
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So the IRS is wrong then? Pity. I was looking forward to those 16k additional employees.

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So the IRS is wrong then? Pity. I was looking forward to those 16k additional employees.

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Where and when did the IRS say that families of 5 would pay a minimum of $20K a year for health insurance?
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Where and when did the IRS say that families of 5 would pay a minimum of $20K a year for health insurance?
Soooooo....you didn't read the article. Explains everything.

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Oh, fvck. Irony OD.


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The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

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