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Old 02-06-2013, 12:41 PM   #1
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Tendency to Fear Is Strong Political Influence

Intersting thought piece gleaned from Science Daily.

[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0205123756.htm]

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The research indicates a strong correlation between social fear and anti-immigration, pro-segregation attitudes. While those individuals with higher levels of social fear exhibited the strongest negative out-group attitudes, even the lowest amount of social phobia was related to substantially less positive out-group attitudes.

"It's not that conservative people are more fearful, it's that fearful people are more conservative. People who are scared of novelty, uncertainty, people they don't know, and things they don't understand, are more supportive of policies that provide them with a sense of surety and security," McDermott said.

The researchers make clear, however, that genetics plays only part of the role in influencing political preferences. Education, they found, had an equally large influence on out-group attitudes, with more highly educated people displaying more supportive attitudes toward out-groups and education having a substantial mediating influence on the correlation between parental fear and child out-group attitudes.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:45 PM   #2
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i.e., Republicans are scared
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:07 PM   #3
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Ah, American Journal of Political Science. Sounds legit. Ever wonder if the word "fear" could actually mean "realistic"?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #4
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Ah, American Journal of Political Science. Sounds legit. Ever wonder if the word "fear" could actually mean "realistic"?
Do you often feel the need to justify your fears by labeling them words like...'realistic'? And how does that make you feel?

Why not make yourself comfortable?



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Old 02-06-2013, 01:15 PM   #5
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Ah, American Journal of Political Science. Sounds legit. Ever wonder if the word "fear" could actually mean "realistic"?
AJPS is the official journal of the Midwest Political Science Association.

The Journal has been published since May, 1957 and is published in January, April, July, and October each year.

AJPS is published by Wiley-Blackwell Publishing and supported by the Department of Political Science , the School of Social Sciences, and The Office of the Provost at Rice University in Houston, Texas.



I'm curious though, do you have a link to your peer reviewed article on how "fear" actually means "realistic". I don't recall reading it.
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I'd be more apt to read something from a psychological journal, not a polical science journal. That was my point. I'm also positive you knew that.
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I'd be more apt to read something from a psychological journal, not a polical science journal. That was my point. I'm also positive you knew that.
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I'd be more apt to read something from a psychological journal, not a polical science journal. That was my point. I'm also positive you knew that.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...in-study-finds
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I'd be more apt to read something from a psychological journal, not a polical science journal. That was my point. I'm also positive you knew that.
Why is that?
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Better. Anyway it totally makes sense. Liberal ideas are usually accompanied with a "don't worry everything is going to be awesome" sales pitch. It is the ultimate optimism, Obama is going to pay my mortgage. This bill will only cost 100 billion dollars, and so forth.

Unfortunately, reality sinks in and Obama didn't pay your mortgage and that 100 billion dollar bill now costs 600 billion dollars. In fact, there isn't one government program that ended up costing as much (or less) than promised when it was voted on.

Again, realism. Oh yeah, since the OP was about immigration...multi-culturalism doesn't work. It doesn't work anywhere and it won't work anywhere.

Realism.
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Better. Anyway it totally makes sense. Liberal ideas are usually accompanied with a "don't worry everything is going to be awesome" sales pitch. It is the ultimate optimism, Obama is going to pay my mortgage. This bill will only cost 100 billion dollars, and so forth.

Unfortunately, reality sinks in and Obama didn't pay your mortgage and that 100 billion dollar bill now costs 600 billion dollars. In fact, there isn't one government program that ended up costing as much (or less) than promised when it was voted on.

Again, realism. Oh yeah, since the OP was about immigration...multi-culturalism doesn't work. It doesn't work anywhere and it won't work anywhere.

Realism.
Your idea of realism is debatable and hence your own. Your concept of realism isn't shared by all.
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Better. Anyway it totally makes sense. Liberal ideas are usually accompanied with a "don't worry everything is going to be awesome" sales pitch. It is the ultimate optimism, Obama is going to pay my mortgage. This bill will only cost 100 billion dollars, and so forth.

Unfortunately, reality sinks in and Obama didn't pay your mortgage and that 100 billion dollar bill now costs 600 billion dollars. In fact, there isn't one government program that ended up costing as much (or less) than promised when it was voted on.

Again, realism. Oh yeah, since the OP was about immigration...multi-culturalism doesn't work. It doesn't work anywhere and it won't work anywhere.

Realism.
Realism is a type of art. Just a heads-up.
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Realism is a type of art. Just a heads-up.
Or an international relations theory of self-interest
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Your idea of realism is debatable and hence your own. Your concept of realism isn't shared by all.
I don't expect it to be, neither is the study's idea of "fear". They are both terms of art in this conversation, which is why I posted as such.
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I don't expect it to be, neither is the study's idea of "fear". They are both terms of art in this conversation, which is why I posted as such.
Fear is not an art. Fear is a physiological response to environmental stimuli.
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Again, realism. Oh yeah, since the OP was about immigration...multi-culturalism doesn't work. It doesn't work anywhere and it won't work anywhere.
May I presume, then, that you don't believe America, a multi-cultural nation and society, will work?

Perhaps this opinion article might be interesting.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/the_...s_last_defeat/
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May I presume, then, that you don't believe America, a multi-cultural nation and society, will work?

Perhaps this opinion article might be interesting.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/the_...s_last_defeat/
Ah the racist card, shocker
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