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Old 05-11-2013, 03:27 PM   #181
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Mert needs to chill.. Not everyone that builds an M3 is out just for a 60-130, number. It's like whatever thread he posts in whether it be "Picked up my new M3," he MAKES SURE that he posts his 60-130 time and asks for yours and cconfirmed VBOX Data lol..get a grip! This is a thread to help those with tied assets with HPF to recover them peacefully! I hope those at HPF and customers alike can come out of this without dispute..

I am chilled, air chilled

stage 3 & 4 owners get those stage 3 & 4 in order to be fast. If they did not want to be fast, they would opt for stage 1 & 2.

stage 3 & 4 owners want to be fast thats why they pay the difference between a stage 1 and stage 4.

sad part of this game was that none of the stage 3/4 M3s were fast enough. Look at Marcus' M3, after itirations its still slow....

60-130 is a good indicator of power and traction and engineering. Its very popular, very popular.

If those stage 3&4 guys were not performance addicted they would opt for 3,20 diesel bimmers. In fact they were power addicted, but that power never showed itself.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:49 PM   #182
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stage 3 & 4 owners get those stage 3 & 4 in order to be fast. If they did not want to be fast, they would opt for stage 1 & 2.

stage 3 & 4 owners want to be fast thats why they pay the difference between a stage 1 and stage 4.

sad part of this game was that none of the stage 3/4 M3s were fast enough. Look at Marcus' M3, after itirations its still slow....

60-130 is a good indicator of power and traction and engineering. Its very popular, very popular.

If those stage 3&4 guys were not performance addicted they would opt for 3,20 diesel bimmers. In fact they were power addicted, but that power never showed itself.
That's like suggesting that because I bought a pair of running shoes yesterday that I want to be Usain Bolt. Some people just do things because they enjoy doing them and they enjoy the car/etc.. an HPF Stage 2.5+ would have ran a 10 sec 1/4 four years ago if anyone would have bothered to put a pair of real slicks on it.. no one cared.. most of these people just enjoy driving their car.. they're not out here to impress you, or anyone else with their 60-130's. We use the 60-130 as a benchmark.. my 60-130 is 5.6 on stock tire sizes on 19's.. its not the fastest but its a damn good time for a car that still looks great going down the road and not bastardized with drag radials and a jacked up rear end.
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TT s54 you're starting to be allittle annoying man we get it you build fast cars but this thread does not have much to do with that
Love your awd m3 so keep that up not just talking on the forum
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Old 05-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #184
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TT s54 you're starting to be allittle annoying man we get it you build fast cars but this thread does not have much to do with that
Love your awd m3 so keep that up not just talking on the forum
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Old 05-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #185
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I am chilled, air chilled

stage 3 & 4 owners get those stage 3 & 4 in order to be fast. If they did not want to be fast, they would opt for stage 1 & 2.

stage 3 & 4 owners want to be fast thats why they pay the difference between a stage 1 and stage 4.

sad part of this game was that none of the stage 3/4 M3s were fast enough. Look at Marcus' M3, after itirations its still slow....

60-130 is a good indicator of power and traction and engineering. Its very popular, very popular.

If those stage 3&4 guys were not performance addicted they would opt for 3,20 diesel bimmers. In fact they were power addicted, but that power never showed itself.
If being the fastest is really your concern then you picked the wrong car to begin with, I really can't believe the ignorance that leaves your keyboard and lands on my screen.l if I wanted 60-130 times I would build a s2k with a 2jz on a t76 and run 8s all day ( and its been done multiple times) Spend less than half of what you will on your Projects and beat you all day at the track.. So my point is no one really gives a damn about your 60-130 times in this tread, as it os not about you though you may be greatly confused in to thinking it is.
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If being the fastest is really your concern then you picked the wrong car to begin with, I really can't believe the ignorance that leaves your keyboard and lands on my screen.l if I wanted 60-130 times I would build a s2k with a 2jz on a t76 and run 8s all day ( and its been done multiple times) Spend less than half of what you will on your Projects and beat you all day at the track.. So my point is no one really gives a damn about your 60-130 times in this tread, as it os not about you though you may be greatly confused in to thinking it is.

none of the 2jz powered cars, including supras, are fast on the road.

supras are darn fast at the drag strip, prepared surface and launch off the line.

2jz powered cars have göne 4,7 s 60-130 on the Street as the fastest.

you dont know much about cars.

there are some reasons why a 2jz'ed car is not fast on the road. they are darn fast for the track.
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none of the 2jz powered cars, including supras, are fast on the road.

supras are darn fast at the drag strip, prepared surface and launch off the line.

2jz powered cars have göne 4,7 s 60-130 on the Street as the fastest.

you dont know much about cars.

there are some reasons why a 2jz'ed car is not fast on the road. they are darn fast for the track.
Then maybe you should attend the next tx-2k, I will assure your feelings maybe crushed when your assumptions are put to rest...

By the way the way a cars ability to perform on a track vs street is left up to traction not just hp an tq. But I guess you forgot about hat aspect. Hp means nothing with out fractions, so here's food for thought, Hpfs car plus traction would equal if not beat your times with their cars making both more power and torque then yours, but when the focus is pure driviblty and high hp and tq numbers, tractions is cast to the wind.. You can't speak about a car not being fast that break traction at those speeds and say if they had better 60-130 times they would be on top and not out of business that's has to be the stupidest thing you've said thus far.....
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Then maybe you should attend the next tx-2k, I will assure your feelings maybe crushed when your assumptions are put to rest...

By the way the way a cars ability to perform on a track vs street is left up to traction not just hp an tq. But I guess you forgot about hat aspect. Hp means nothing with out fractions, so here's food for thought, Hpfs car plus traction would equal if not beat your times with their cars making both more power and torque then yours, but when the focus is pure driviblty and high hp and tq numbers, tractions is cast to the wind.. You can't speak about a car not being fast that break traction at those speeds and say if they had better 60-130 times they would be on top and not out of business that's has to be the stupidest thing you've said thus far.....
? Mert's car makes a lot more hp than HPF's cars
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? Mert's car makes a lot more hp than HPF's cars
Curious, how much torque does your car make Mert? I think he posted a dyno graph once but if I recall he used a pop up poloriod camera and a flash bulb to take the picture.
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Curious, how much torque does your car make Mert? I think he posted a dyno graph once but if I recall he used a pop up poloriod camera and a flash bulb to take the picture.
Marcus,

I have no idea. My dyno Dynamics had no engine speed receptor.

Then I bought a kit which allowed Dynamics to read engine speed.

Unfortunately, it was at a time where only 1 single dyno run was damaging the rear wishbones. Thats what made me sell the Dynamics.

I could not even complete 1 single run.
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Today we tested front LSD, my assistant is on the video turning one of the front wheels.

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weighed awd M3 TT






this is with zero weight reduction.

Can go down to 2999 lbs with a serious diet.

First tests will be stock weight, diet will come later. Just want to see how the awd system will react.

We are capable of deciding at which engine speeds, at which boost pressure the awd will turn on, driven by pectel.

We are capable of adjusting the amount of torque which goes to the front axle.

These two settings give a lot of room to play with and to set traction.
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Then maybe you should attend the next tx-2k, I will assure your feelings maybe crushed when your assumptions are put to rest...

By the way the way a cars ability to perform on a track vs street is left up to traction not just hp an tq. But I guess you forgot about hat aspect. Hp means nothing with out fractions, so here's food for thought, Hpfs car plus traction would equal if not beat your times with their cars making both more power and torque then yours, but when the focus is pure driviblty and high hp and tq numbers, tractions is cast to the wind.. You can't speak about a car not being fast that break traction at those speeds and say if they had better 60-130 times they would be on top and not out of business that's has to be the stupidest thing you've said thus far.....
Agreed.

However don't feed the trolls...
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so if the DD is sold what rollers are you on now?

I am on my own rollerzz

highway...
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Fabricated exhaust piping, took some time as all the bends are cut and weld.

All aluminium after downpipes.

Two mufflers at the exit, did not cut the rear tire pool. Two mufflers are next to each other.






One of the final stages is the driver's seat.

As we have changed the transmission tunnel we had to fabricate a driver's seat and its rails and its adapters.

The driver's seat is coming to end.





The seat has to come closer to the door, its not centric, but it worked.

Final stage is Wheel alingment, and off to the road to test how AWD will react. Hopefully next weekend.
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XM3 TT is ready for road tests. After Wheel alignment we will test all wheel drive system, torque distribution.....

Initial tests will be made on 225/40/18 Pirelli Tropheos, all of the tires have to have the same diameter on an all Wheel drive system. I had 225 tires in R Compound on stock and hence they will be used for awd tests.

AWD is activated by Pectel as per my settings. This is where and at which road speeds and under which conditions awd come on. Four different AWD activation maps can be selected on the fly.
Tested on the lift, worked 100 %. Now time for road tests.

Second test point, amount of torque to the front axle. This is one of the hardest parts of the XM3 Project. How much torque do I send to the front axles? % 5 or % 20 or % 50?
Tested on the lift, worked 100 %. Now time for road tests.

Once the all wheel drive system works 100 %, four fenders will be changed, 315tires on rear axle, 245 on front axle.









From the outside, hood closed, this E46 looks like a regular 3.18i.
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A real sleeper, which is being prepared to run sub 3 seconds 60-130 mph
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