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Old 03-10-2012, 07:20 PM   #1
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Best position for radar detector?

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What is the best position to put the radar detector? Currently I have it little bit below half way on windscreen. Also should it be facing directly towards the front or tilted towards the left side?

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Old 03-10-2012, 10:29 PM   #2
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Hi guys,

What is the best position to put the radar detector? Currently I have it little bit below half way on windscreen. Also should it be facing directly towards the front or tilted towards the left side?

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Not sure about windscreen mounted ones but the remote mounted ones are generally best when centered, level and aiming directly forward. I'd imagine it would be the same with the windscreen ones. If it picks up laser you'd want it to be mounted fairly low on the windscreen.
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:25 AM   #3
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Is it still worth it having a radar detector this days as most of them uses Laser now days and it kinda just becomes a speeding fine warning from what I hear?
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:31 AM   #4
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Is it still worth it having a radar detector this days as most of them uses Laser now days and it kinda just becomes a speeding fine warning from what I hear?
That's what laser jammers are for

Edit: Sorry, I mean parking sensors
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:32 AM   #5
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That's what laser jammers are for

Edit: Sorry, I mean parking sensors
Yeah but not much point with radar detector then?
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:47 AM   #6
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Yeah but not much point with radar detector then?
You need the detector to detect the laser first so you can switch of the laser jammer. Otherwise the Police will know something is up if they don't get a speed reading on your car.
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Yeah but not much point with radar detector then?
There are 3 systems that are used to measure and enforce speed (well in QLD at least)

Radar
- Generally used for fixed cameras or mobile cameras such as speed camera vans etc. (K Band)
- Also used in car (Ka Band)

You use a radar detector to alert of radar signals, you then need to react and respond before you get close enough to the radar device for it to measure your speed. Radar is generally used in close proximity, e.g. with a mobile speed camera you need to be something like less than 20m away from it for it to get your speed (don't quote me on that, I CBF checking as it makes no difference to the point i'm making)

Laser
- Generally hand held guns that work from a long distance. Unlike radar which sprays everywhere making it easy for the detector to pick up, laser is extremely direct meaning that by the time the detector picks it up the gun already has your speed.

- There are also fixed cameras that use laser but i'm not aware of any on the east coast. I think they might use them in WA though.

A jammer gives a null reading or error to the gun so that the officer can't get your speed. Obviously it's a bit sus if you continue past the officer whilst still jamming. Generally people set jammers to jam for 4 seconds and then turn off, allowing time to slow down.

Point to point
- This is where sensors are placed in the ground and measure your speed by using the distance over time calculation. There is no detector that will pick it up because it doesn't emit any signals. Having said that, it needs to be put in the road so it's not going anywhere. GPS's can have these cameras programmed into them or detectors like the 9500ci that have GPS can also alert to them when the locations are flagged in the device.

Essentially you can defend against both laser and radar. Radar by getting an alert ahead of time and laser by preventing the gun from obtaining a reading, generally for a given period.

If you only defend against 1 and not the other you will constantly be thinking that the other system will get you.
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:55 PM   #8
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The majority of Multinovas here are now Laser, there is a little bit of Ka band left here and there and there is a miniscule amount of K out in the country areas (nothing in city).

You can still pick up laser if it is hand held, but the cameras almost shoot at 90deg so any warning you get is either so late as to not be of any assistance, or otherwise after the fact.
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The majority of Multinovas here are now Laser, there is a little bit of Ka band left here and there and there is a miniscule amount of K out in the country areas (nothing in city).

You can still pick up laser if it is hand held, but the cameras almost shoot at 90deg so any warning you get is either so late as to not be of any assistance, or otherwise after the fact.
Yeah that is what I thought too that is why I figure radar detector seems a bit useless here.

But interesting info dec and didn't know you still need the radar detector to work in conjuction with the laser jammer I thought those laser jammer comes with in built detector or something haha.
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The Jammers work on their own without a detector. but they wont auto off without one ( i think ..), they also wont inform you of the presence of the cop/camera/...

That V1 is sitting too high for my liking. Unlikely to get the best performance from in front, and would be very poor performance from behind.

Mine sits so it looks like its attached to the underside of the mirror, it works very well 80% of the time, the only times it doesnt give enough warning are the 90deg cameras...

But i got mine for the regional driving I do, and it works very well in those instances ...
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The Jammers work on their own without a detector. but they wont auto off without one ( i think ..), they also wont inform you of the presence of the cop/camera/...

That V1 is sitting too high for my liking. Unlikely to get the best performance from in front, and would be very poor performance from behind.

Mine sits so it looks like its attached to the underside of the mirror, it works very well 80% of the time, the only times it doesnt give enough warning are the 90deg cameras...

But i got mine for the regional driving I do, and it works very well in those instances ...
Jammers work 100% standalone but as mentioned you won't be alerted to radar. Lasers do not work in motion so all in car devices that are used at speed will be radar. As mentioned you guys have the multinova fixed laser cameras in WA, I'm not sure if they use the same system for portable cameras? Here all our cameras that are built into cars and then parked on the side of the road (Mercedes Vitos, Golfs, Patrols, Landcruisers, hilux's etc.) all use radar.

For any state apart from WA where the use of detectors and I think Jammers is legal I'd recommend a hidden install 9500ci coupled with twin head front facing Laser Pro Parks. The reasoning behind not having rear facing is that it's way to obvious if a cop hits the back of your car, can't get a reading, sees the brake lights go on then off, then they get a reading of you doing the right speed.

It's rare for police to laser the back of your car and in this situation you just need to cop it on the chin. This is why if I were to run such devices I'd only speed by an amount that I don't mind getting done at, on the off chance that the defence fails.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:47 AM   #16
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #17
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Im in Vic, I got chance to test with my friend's V1 around my area before. I put it just above the dashboard and it worked really great to detect from front and rear.
I really want to get one but I heard that it is illegal to use in VIC. Some says the police has a device to detect people who use radar detector specificity.
Anyone are in VIC and using any of the dectors everyday?

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Im in Vic, I got chance to test with my friend's V1 around my area before. I put it just above the dashboard and it worked really great to detect from front and rear.
I really want to get one but I heard that it is illegal to use in VIC. Some says the police has a device to detect people who use radar detector specificity.
Anyone are in VIC and using any of the dectors everyday?
Police have radar detector detectors. Only way to avoid this is get an undetectable radar detector like a bel sti or escort 9500ci.
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V1 is undetectable ?(from what i had read at the time anyway)

Yeh all our portable cameras are being phased to Laser, the back of van ones are KA band and I think the in car ones are KA or K (depending on where you are), but they are mostly now instant on, so you only get a reading if they have switched it on to check yours or someone elses speed.

Our fixed one is Laser as well i beleive ( i remmember my detector going berserk when i went past the other day, but cant remmember what it was ...)
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V1 is undetectable ?(from what i had read at the time anyway)

Yeh all our portable cameras are being phased to Laser, the back of van ones are KA band and I think the in car ones are KA or K (depending on where you are), but they are mostly now instant on, so you only get a reading if they have switched it on to check yours or someone elses speed.

Our fixed one is Laser as well i beleive ( i remmember my detector going berserk when i went past the other day, but cant remmember what it was ...)
Pretty sure the V1 is detectable. At the time when I was doing my research it was the best detector out there but not suitable for those wanting undetectable units.

In QLD the speed camera vans etc. use K band and in car is KA. You are correct though, instant on in car radar can be used. There are also certain cops who go up behind cars and flick the instant on to see if they brake. If they do, it's pretty clear they have a detector.
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