WSJ: Ben Carson for President?

Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc

So because he compared a flat tax system to tithe, eventhough many support the flat tax system automatically makes the idea stupid because he compared it to something religious? Hate to break it to you champ, most of our laws stem from that 2000 year old book.

I like the modern version of "kill your rebellious child".

Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc

So because he compared a flat tax system to tithe, eventhough many support the flat tax system automatically makes the idea stupid because he compared it to something religious? Hate to break it to you champ, most of our laws stem from that 2000 year old book.

Doesn't make them right, champ.

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08

People get their individual ideals from different inspirations in life. I like his views on personal responsibility and being held accountable.

Well getting inspiration from the bronze age about how to run a country of 300million+ I think is a bit out of touch. The structure of society is vastly different from today and 2000 years ago. I imagine the tax systems have differed as well.

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08

Why? If he didn't mention god and religion would you make the same statement? Must everyone who becomes a politician come from the corrupt phony backgrounds that plague most of this country's politicians?

Yes. No.

just saw this.... great speech!

Tithing is from the OT, which is generally older than 2,000 yrs. And ironically is largely sublimated by US Protestants to the NT.

AFAIK, tithing isn't a tenet of the NT, but it references giving what one can afford.

I've met and spoken with Dr Carson because I coordinated an event for him. I found him to be charming, smart as hell and very religious. He's a man of tremendous scientific knowledge and skill, yet he dismisses evolution as a proven scientific theory. To say he's complex is an understatement.

I calculate that everyone in the USA woud have to be taxed at 42 percent to pay the current budget.

Spending problem? And before you ask for links, I calculated it using the White House budget for gross US income and spending. You can do your own calcs,

Originally Posted by 325seeeye

I calculate that everyone in the USA woud have to be taxed at 42 percent to pay the current budget.

Spending problem? And before you ask for links, I calculated it using the White House budget for gross US income and spending. You can do your own calcs,

"Today I’m pledging to cut the deficit ...in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. .. but I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.” --- Barack Obama

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08

"Today I’m pledging to cut the deficit ...in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. .. but I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.” --- Barack Obama

Good thing we've got such a leader who can set grand goals and accomplish them.. And to think be was able to accomplish the debt reduction while also increasing food stamps to never before seen levels..

Conservatives are the only true Christians? And LOL at the food stamp argument. Should I also mention that Cooperations are raking in record profits too?

Originally Posted by 2000_328CI

Good thing we've got such a leader who can set grand goals and accomplish them.. And to think be was able to accomplish the debt reduction while also increasing food stamps to never before seen levels..

While it's undeniable that food stamp usage is at an all time high, where was the bitching in 2003, 2004, 2005, etc., etc. when those years represented historical highs for their place in time? The fact of the matter is that the costs of programs like food stamps have been on a steady increase for a very long time. Again, you playing a good party cheerleader and blaming on the Democrat POTUS seems a bit short sighted.

I agree with Dr. Carson speaking against Loopholes and Special interests. So glad he mentioned the Cayman Islands. But we're in a plutocracy now.

Originally Posted by evolved

While it's undeniable that food stamp usage is at an all time high, where was the bitching in 2003, 2004, 2005, etc., etc. when those years represented historical highs for their place in time? The fact of the matter is that the costs of programs like food stamps have been on a steady increase for a very long time. Again, you playing a good party cheerleader and blaming on the Democrat POTUS seems a bit short sighted.

I just want to let you know...that I don't particualarly blame any one thing on anybody but...I do hold people accountable to their words. If you don't mean it and it's not feasible, don't say it.

Originally Posted by bimmerfan08

I just want to let you know...that I don't particualarly blame any one thing on anybody but...I do hold people accountable to their words. If you don't mean it and it's not feasible, don't say it.

I totally agree. When he made that initial comment I laughed openly at the television. That's one of those ridiculous campaign stump speech promises that both sides are guilty of and anyone with a brain should be able to see through. It's unfortunate that both sides are guilty of it, know that it works, and exploit the muppets who lap it up like cream to a kitten.

Originally Posted by evolved

I totally agree. When he made that initial comment I laughed openly at the television. That's one of those ridiculous campaign stump speech promises that both sides are guilty of and anyone with a brain should be able to see through. It's unfortunate that both sides are guilty of it, know that it works, and exploit the muppets who lap it up like cream to a kitten.

Precisely.

Ben Carson will be Herman Cain if he starts winning straw polls and starts leading too long during primaries. (IF he decides to run)

Originally Posted by phrozen06

Ben Carson will be Herman Cain if he starts winning straw polls and starts leading too long during primaries. (IF he decides to run)

You mean taken out of the race by false infidelity claims?

See this is what I don't get about the Republican base. On the one hand they're all about reinventing the image of the party and what not. On the other, they put up this loon as the party poster child.

I've heard him talk, and he's out there in the deep end. Nutjob..

Part of me actually wants to see him run in 2016 so that makes things easier for the Dems..

And as far as politics and religion go, there's no correlation that conservatives are good Christians and non-conservatives are not (as the Republican propaganda would have everyone believe). It's good to have faith, but that is a personal topic and needs to be kept personal and not mixed into a cocktail with politics and public policy.

Sure, personally I like it that he's a man of faith but for me it stops there. That has no bearing on his ability as a leader or politician, and it shouldn't shape public policy. The two are entirely different subjects and better kept that way.

Originally Posted by phrozen06

Ben Carson will be Herman Cain if he starts winning straw polls and starts leading too long during primaries. (IF he decides to run)

Originally Posted by Act of God

You mean taken out of the race by false infidelity claims?

Herman's own party did it to him.

Originally Posted by phrozen06

Herman's own party did it to him.

Gloria Allred is a democrat operative.

Originally Posted by Act of God

Gloria Allred is a democrat operative.

Why was fox news the first to interview her?