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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 02-26-2013, 06:16 AM   #21
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my own is looking really bad too ,I think it the armoral that penetrate the textured paint and causes it to crack ,I still can't decided which way to do it ,piano black is an option maybe the colour of the car CB ,but I am worried about finger prints , its just the two front doors but I heard you can't just buy the two pieces you have to get the complete set OEM
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:30 AM   #22
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my own is looking really bad too ,I think it the armoral that penetrate the textured paint and causes it to crack ,I still can't decided which way to do it ,piano black is an option maybe the colour of the car CB ,but I am worried about finger prints , its just the two front doors but I heard you can't just buy the two pieces you have to get the complete set OEM
Looks like you can buy them one at a time here!

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-...Interior/Door/
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:27 AM   #23
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I bought both armrests from Tischer or BMWPARTS.com for. Like I said is was poor factory paint and hand sanitizer is the problem. Hope this helps:


Order Status Details Order Date: 10/1/09 8:28 AM
Description Qty Price Core Price Total Price
OEM Catalog
ARMREST 1 $78.00 $0.00 $78.00
Status: Sent
OEM Catalog
ARMREST 1 $78.00 $0.00 $78.00
Status: Sent
Sub Total $156.00
Tax $0.00
Ground - Shipping $11.69
Handling Fee $0.00
Total $167.69
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:28 AM   #24
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Dang.. not bad at all!
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:37 AM   #25
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Dang.. not bad at all!
That's why I could not believe the prices you guys were listing. You do have to remove the entire inside door but my friend did in 30 minutes installed. And the interior looks brand new.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:01 PM   #26
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Quick follow up question.. when I am looking at replacement pieces I see three colors: Piano black, black (Swartz) and grey? Even though that is kinda silvery, that is the BLACK one right? Definitely not the piano black that is for sure, and the grey is that white/dove gray right?
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:13 PM   #27
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I bought both armrests from Tischer or BMWPARTS.com for. Like I said is was poor factory paint and hand sanitizer is the problem. Hope this helps:


Order Status Details Order Date: 10/1/09 8:28 AM
Description Qty Price Core Price Total Price
OEM Catalog
ARMREST 1 $78.00 $0.00 $78.00
Status: Sent
OEM Catalog
ARMREST 1 $78.00 $0.00 $78.00
Status: Sent
Sub Total $156.00
Tax $0.00
Ground - Shipping $11.69
Handling Fee $0.00
Total $167.69
So do you have the part numbers for that? I browsed through the listing and cant seem to find exactly what you found. The armrest from ECS is MUCH higher!
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:06 PM   #28
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Per VIN#, it looks like you have the Titan Shadow(dark gray painted)
interior trim. Here are the part numbers/prices for the left/right front
door armrest assemblies to match:

Left 51417904355 $97.50

Right 51417904356 $97.50

If you'd like to place an order for them, you can do so by part number
via the 'shop by part number' button located on our homepage @
www.getbmwparts.com .

Thanks again!



P.S. - Yes, I do believe that the door panels will have to be removed in
order to swap these new armrests in, unfortunately...


Jason Reighard helped me. jreighard@mileone.com

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:08 PM   #29
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Per VIN#, it looks like you have the Titan Shadow(dark gray painted)
interior trim. Here are the part numbers/prices for the left/right front
door armrest assemblies to match:

Left 51417904355 $97.50

Right 51417904356 $97.50

If you'd like to place an order for them, you can do so by part number
via the 'shop by part number' button located on our homepage @
www.getbmwparts.com .

Thanks again!

P.S. - Yes, I do believe that the door panels will have to be removed in
order to swap these new armrests in, unfortunately...
That is awesome, thank you!

What weird though are the prices.. they are much higher than listed. The left is $164 and the right is $103.

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:11 PM   #30
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Just checked, price has gone up

Part Number 51417904355
Part Name ARMREST
MSRP $205.95
Core $0.00
Save $41.19
Online Price $164.76
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:09 AM   #31
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Ok.. making progress! I have the passenger door panel off and the handle as well in prep to HOPEFULLY still trade for a good one. If not, I will pull all four and wrap with the Di-noc carbon fiber wrap in the next day or two. My question though is this: How do you get the arm rest leather pad off? I see it fits into the piece with like six little posts that fit into metal compression braces. Do I pull the armrest apart into the upper and lower pieces? Do I try to back out the pad by pressing on those metal clamps? Pry up on the pad itself? (tried that, got a slight gap but was worried about breaking something)

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Old 03-05-2013, 05:53 PM   #32
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All done for both front pulls and I will finish the rears tomorrow, but WOW! Couple of hours of work and they look AMAZING!


Passenger that was completely trashed with bubbles all over!!

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Driver side that was intact but looking a little worn but not anymore!!

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I am also going to buy another 4x1 sheet and do the three trim pieces on the dash and the gear shift surround.

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Old 03-12-2013, 12:35 PM   #33
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Well when my new 4x1 sheet comes in, looks like I have to do the passenger side again.

It was the first piece I did and definitely have been learning as I have gone along. The secret appears to be to leave overlap where you can, so you can fold the wrap into the armrest for extra adherence and a tight fit. The left I did first, assumed the adhesive would stick completely, so cut all the wrap right to the edges of the rest.

After a weekend away and a fair amount of use, the wrap is peeling up in one of the corners that gets pulled on all the time. *sigh* No biggie and lesson learned that is for sure.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:34 PM   #34
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Well I am definitely going to have to do the passenger side again. I have been reading up on this task a lot and I think I went WAY too fast, and too impatient to get the work done. I also found a pretty amazing thread over on some e90 forums doing the same thing but with fabric. The install advice is really good, and quality of the work from the pics is FIRST rate, and they also use a 3M adhesive spray before laying on the material.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194662

I think I may order 4x2 instead of just another 4x1, and redo BOTH front pulls and the center trim. Slow down, take my time and really really focus on it being a solid job. It looks good, but I want it to be perfect. I am seriously going to consider that 3M spray as well to make sure the stuff stays down.

-edit-

Wow.. you can get a full sheet of the fabric for less than the 3M di-noc, AND you can get it in colors! My M3 is imola on black.. I wonder how the red would look?!

-edit edit-

Yeah.. I Am going to order a big sheet of the cloth and go that route. The pieces they show on the e90 forums is just amazing. I can get a 55x36 piece for the cost of a 48x12 of the vinyl. I am buying the black FYI.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-CHROME-3...50872709999%26

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Old 03-19-2013, 09:17 PM   #35
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Cloth is here and I have gotten started with the dash pieces and shifter surround first. They appear to be easier than the door handles so will practice there first. So far looks GREAT.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:45 PM   #36
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So I recommend working with that cloth material highly over the di-noc! The 3M material is really stuff unless you aggressively heat it, so to get it around corners you have to warm it up, stretch, and then get it to stick down. That said, as it cools it tends to contract which might pull it off the edges or corners.

I am all done now with the cloth, and it looks amazing! (I will get pics posted soon)

3M Di-nocPros:
Link for product - http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Di-Noc/ES1905436/
Harder and thicker, which likely means it will wear better over time or ding/nick resistant.
Edges are clean cuts around switches and other flat surfaces.


Cons:
More expensive than the cloth by a factor of almost 3
Can contract away from edges as it cools.
Harder to bring around edges and curved shapes due to heating needs and stiffer material
Adhesive backing seems to lose tackiness if you pull and reset the piece several times.

"Carbon Fiber" cloth
Cloth link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/150872709999...999%26_rdc%3D1
Pros:
Soft and stretchy, compared to di-noc, easier to pull around corners or odd shapes. this makes aggressive wraps to the inside easier to pull out wrinkles, etc much easier!
A LOT of material for not very much, compared to di-noc, so leaves room for mistakes or do overs.
Choice of adhesive gives greater choice in how aggressive you want to glue it.
It comes in other colors!
Really good install guide! - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194662


Cons:
Softer material than the di-noc, therefore easier to ding, tear or mark up.
Harder to clean, so watch out for glue overspray!! (no really!)
Harder to cut clean edges as it is fiber cloth and not a sheet of rubber compared to di-noc. This means you have to wrap switch surrounds instead of cut at edges which makes reinstall more complicated.


So there you go! I will post up pics soon.

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Old 03-25-2013, 07:48 PM   #37
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I purchased a gorgeous topaz blue '02 back in Oct '12. Most of my interior panels are either bubbling or very scratched up. The previous owner must've had talons. Considering having everything painted in a two pack paint to prevent it happening again and for overall quality. My only concern is I live in Queensland and in our heat it might make said surfaces a little too hot.
I've got plenty of time to brainstorm so I'll keep you posted wgen I decide to pull my finger out.

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:19 AM   #38
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Ok.. here we go! Full set of pics of the work done, just fresh taken in the parking lot this morning.

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:32 AM   #39
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:17 PM   #40
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