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Old 03-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #61
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Dextrose is just so heavily processed during the "extraction". In reality table sugar is no better, but it is cheaper than the heavily marketed dextrose, maltodextrin, waxy maize etc. White sugar is processed similarly, the only time i would advocate its use is immediately pwo, 40-50g to really get an immediate insulin response.
have you ever bought it? It's like $4 a bag.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:34 PM   #62
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I take calcium citrate + vitamin D and fish oil. I have taken creatine monohydrate in the past, but dislike the chalky powder stuff.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:41 PM   #63
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Yeah I made a mistake on dextrose as far as price, cost isn't an issue. I'm not advocating table sugar, dextrose is great post workout. I use chocolate almond milk plus whey pwo myself. But the only time I would even consider dextrose would be immediately post workout.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:49 PM   #64
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Yeah I made a mistake on dextrose as far as price, cost isn't an issue. I'm not advocating table sugar, dextrose is great post workout. I use chocolate almond milk plus whey pwo myself. But the only time I would even consider dextrose would be immediately post workout.
I've been drinking about a cup and a half of whole milk with 2 big ass scoop fuls of quick. It's so damn good.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:19 PM   #65
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There is some preworkout stuff I tried. 1MR.. The serving size is about that of jacked, well... just a single one of those scoops:

300mg of caffeine and only 6 calories.

I only took half a scoop and had a really good workout, without a crash. But it's hard to judge, because I only lift 3x a week and get a lot of rest, so when I'm in the gym I'm pretty excited as it is. :boner:

For a reference: http://www.energyfiend.com/caffeine-...ut-supplements
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:22 PM   #66
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I'm not sure where you heard that deca corrects and helps joint pain. You'd literally have to drink gallons of water to see that difference.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #67
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There is some preworkout stuff I tried. 1MR.. The serving size is about that of jacked, well... just a single one of those scoops:

300mg of caffeine and only 6 calories.

I only took half a scoop and had a really good workout, without a crash. But it's hard to judge, because I only lift 3x a week and get a lot of rest, so when I'm in the gym I'm pretty excited as it is. :boner:

For a reference: http://www.energyfiend.com/caffeine-...ut-supplements
how much more is that than a typical cup of coffee?
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how much more is that than a typical cup of coffee?
Typical cup of coffee is about 50 mg caffeine
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:51 PM   #69
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:11 PM   #70
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how much more is that than a typical cup of coffee?


http://www.energyfiend.com/energy-drink-ingredients

Caffeine

The most common stimulant, found also in coffee, Coke, and Mountain Dew but usually is found in much higher quantities in energy drinks. Most energy drinks contain between 70 and 200mg.

An 8oz cup of coffee contains 110-150mg for drip
65-125mg for percolated coffee.
40-80 mg for instant coffee.
Dr. Pepper gives you 41mg.
A can of Coke provides 34mg.
A full can of RockStar has 160mg.
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http://www.energyfiend.com/energy-drink-ingredients

Caffeine

The most common stimulant, found also in coffee, Coke, and Mountain Dew but usually is found in much higher quantities in energy drinks. Most energy drinks contain between 70 and 200mg.

An 8oz cup of coffee contains 110-150mg for drip
65-125mg for percolated coffee.
40-80 mg for instant coffee.
Dr. Pepper gives you 41mg.
A can of Coke provides 34mg.
A full can of RockStar has 160mg.
I guess you're getting quite a bit then lol
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Yea but I wonder how many tablespoons of ground coffee is yielding 110-150mg per 8oz. Seems really high.
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Whey protein and half the recommended dose of creatine. I try to keep it as natural as possible and supplement as little as possible.

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Old 03-01-2013, 05:13 PM   #74
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Half the recommended dose of creatine and whey protein. I try to keep it as natural as possible and supplement as little as possible.

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"Supplements" should be just that in my opinion. In case your diet wasn't on point one day, you supplement the defiency. Not rely on.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:32 PM   #75
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dextrose is a waste of cash imo, and you realize, there is luecine in just about every protein powder, that goes for bcaas for that matter
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Despite the numerous positive benefits to BCAA supplementation, there are many skeptics who suggest that BCAAs are overpriced and that, to get more BCAAs, one should just consume more whey protein. While whey is rich in BCAAs, this isn't the most effective strategy.

The BCAAs in whey are peptide-bound to other amino acids and, in order to be effective, must be liberated through digestion and then absorbed into the bloodstream. Even though whey protein is relatively fast digesting, it still takes several hours for all the amino acids to be liberated and absorbed into the bloodstream.

BCAAs in supplement form, however, are free form, require no digestion, and are rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream. They spike blood amino acid levels to a much greater and faster extent than peptide-bound aminos. Even a few grams of free-form BCAAs will spike BCAA plasma levels to a much greater extent than a 30g dose of whey protein, thereby impacting protein synthesis and protein degradation to a much greater degree.

The reason BCAA supplements have such a powerful effect on blood BCAA levels is that, unlike other amino acids, BCAAs are not significantly metabolized by the small intestine or the liver. Therefore, an oral supplement is more like a BCAA infusion because it reaches the bloodstream so rapidly.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:36 PM   #76
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you really think a bcaa can have an insulin like effect?


i dunno, i'm all hears if you have the data
here another from layne norton, a guy who in my mind knows his stuff.


" Leucine can spike insulin almost as well as carbs but it doesn’t take you out of ketosis or prevent you from being in a fat-adapted state. ”

source: http://procardbodybuilding.com/forum...-bcaa-865.html

I know the source takes you to a forum i couldnt find the original
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"Supplements" should be just that in my opinion. In case your diet wasn't on point one day, you supplement the defiency. Not rely on.
Yeah, but I must admit, I kinda rely on the 1-2 scoops whey to help me exceed 200g protein.

I compare it to a super lean meat, low carbs and fat.
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There is some preworkout stuff I tried. 1MR.. The serving size is about that of jacked, well... just a single one of those scoops:

300mg of caffeine and only 6 calories.

I only took half a scoop and had a really good workout, without a crash. But it's hard to judge, because I only lift 3x a week and get a lot of rest, so when I'm in the gym I'm pretty excited as it is. :boner:

For a reference: http://www.energyfiend.com/caffeine-...ut-supplements
Kind of surprised at the amount of caffeine that jack3d has....just 50mg.

I thought that might be off, but a quick search shows that it might not have anymore than 70mg or so per serving. I cut out preworkout long ago as I try to limit my caffeine, but might have to give it a try. Though it does have other stimulants.
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Kind of surprised at the amount of caffeine that jack3d has....just 50mg.

I thought that might be off, but a quick search shows that it might not have anymore than 70mg or so per serving. I cut out preworkout long ago as I try to limit my caffeine, but might have to give it a try. Though it does have other stimulants.
really? this is interesting I havent tried the new jack3d. I know the old jacked had 150 mg of caffiene and was great cause it had DMAA.
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Anyone use BCAA postworkout?

I would do bcaa right after then a regular pwo shake with whey maybe 15min later, but I want my tub of BCAAs to last a month.

Oh and I had a few samples of silk amino acids. Never heard of them before, but taken post workout before my regular shake....thought it really helped with recovery.
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