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Old 02-22-2015, 03:08 PM   #1
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Pentosin ATF1 in GM Tramsmission

I have a 2003 325xi with GM A5S 390R transmission. A friend of mine has a transmission shop and recommended Pentosin ATF+1. Searching here and on Google didn't provide any conclusive results on Pentosin.

My friend says that this oil can be used on almost all BMW transmissions including the ones my by GM for BMW. Is this correct?
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Old 02-22-2015, 04:22 PM   #2
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Starless over at Bimmerfest runs it in his and said that it was the only fluid he could find that worked to his satisfaction in his A5S390R.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=656541
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:18 PM   #3
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Thanks - that's good info. Will give Pentosin a shot.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:43 PM   #4
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How much is Pentosin ATF per quart?
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:36 PM   #5
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Valvoline Dexron IV works great in the GM transmission, is a full synthetic, and is cheap from about anywhere.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:54 PM   #6
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Valvoline Dexron IV works great in the GM transmission, is a full synthetic, and is cheap from about anywhere.
That's great, and it was posted about 100 times, but it was not my question.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:44 AM   #7
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Pentosin ATF1 in GM Tramsmission

This is the first Thread I've seen mention using Pentosin ATF1 instead of the usual suspects. I'm getting close to at least performing a drain & refill. (149k miles currently) -Hope to read an update when OP has developed an opinion on the results.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:25 PM   #8
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Everything seems to be running great after a week of driving Pentosin ATF1 - shifting smooth and fast, good torque. I will do another flush since I didn't get everything out of converter last time.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:31 PM   #9
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Sweet! Keep it up, man!
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:42 PM   #10
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As mentioned above I've had this oil in my GM transmission for 25000 miles now. No problems. I hope to reach 200K on the original tranny. Knock on wood.
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:29 AM   #11
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Question Regarding Pentosin ATF1

Starless, any updates on mileage and how the Pentosin ATF1 is working for you? I've read you're posts on the flush with the Texaco, and the DEX VI so just wondering so far how the Pentosin ATF1 is holding up?

djdonis how is it working for you as well?

I have 03 330xi manufactured in 03/2003 with the A5S390R Part number on the bottom is 83220024359 on the green label.

I live in Canada, and am unable to locate any of the Texaco ETL 8072B. My current mileage on my 2003 330xi is 206,000km (Canada) = 128,000miles (US), no issues shifts smooth like butter, but would like to do some preventive maintenance.

The original part number 83220024359 is superseded to 83220397114 which is the DEX IV from BMW, now when I run this part number(83220397114) on fcpeuro.com where I buy my OEM BMW parts from I get Pentosin ATF1 as a hit and not DEX VI, coincidence? yet 83220397114 is DEX VI from BMW. When I run my info(2003 330xi) it gives me Redline D4 on fcpeuro.com so oem part numbers pulls the Pentosin, yet I put in my make year and model pulls up DEX VI.... hmmm? Also I understand that DEX VI and Pentosin are not the same, there is a difference between the two.

Here it is from FCP Website

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Pentosin ATF 1
FCP ID: 71201
Made in Germany ***61529;
Quality: OEM ***61529;

OE Numbers
83220397114, G052162A2, 1161521, ATF1-5L, 1058206, 83229407807, Z000169756, JLM20238, 0019892203, Z000169756, 99991754700, PL31493PA, 1058206

Juding by the info on fcpeuro.com the first OE part number is BMW DEX VI huh? this is a bit confusing...

I order 3-5L jug's of Pentosin ATF1 + oem gasket and filter. Will do a drain and fill twice, then will drop the pan and replace gasket and filter.

Here's a photo I found online giving original part numbers some details - Photo #1

Technical info on Pentosin ATF 1, Chevron's Halvoline ATF , and Valvoline MAXLife ATF, Mobil1 ATF . FVP ATF, Petro Canada ATF, Kendall ATF = Photo #2-7

Interesting Read about Dexron, note on the end the part that says: Lubeguard(tm) has been endoresed for solving automatic tranmission problems by the Europeean car manufactures: SAAB,Volve,Pugeot, and BMW (or really?) - last photo #8
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:42 PM   #12
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Performed a Drain/Fill last night with Pentosin ATF1, everything went smooth. Car shifts really well as it did before. Old fluid was pretty dark in colour. Will perform another drain and fill after 500km, and then finally drop the pan and replace filter and gasket, clean magnet etc..
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:01 PM   #13
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Performed a second drain and fill last night using Pentosin ATF1, after putting over 500km on the first drain and fill. Also replace the transfer case mount since it was torn. Car drives fine. Next week will drop the pan and replace the filter & gasket + final fill.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:50 AM   #14
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How much is Pentosin ATF per quart?
With pentosin atf $20 a quart why not use redline d4? About half the cost.
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Old 09-20-2015, 12:35 PM   #15
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With pentosin atf $20 a quart why not use redline d4? About half the cost.
Valvoline Maxlife is even cheaper, about $5 per quart. Everyone has their reasons for using a particular ATF.

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Old 09-20-2015, 12:48 PM   #16
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Pentosin atf $20 a quart? Maybe in Canada. I don't know. I can buy it for $10 a quart on ebay. As far as Maxlife being cheaper, yes it is but does not work well in these trannys. Stick with a thicker atf such as Pentosin, Mobil1 or Redline D4.
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...Maxlife...does not work well in these trannys. Stick with a thicker atf such as Pentosin, Mobil1 or Redline D4.
Any data to support this claim? Just curious, as I haven't heard this in the ATF threads I have read. I agree that Pentosin, Mobile 1, D4 are all great ATFs.

GM recommends Dexron VI fluid for these trannys. I have been using the Valvoline Dexron VI in two GM trannys for a few years now with no problems.
http://www.valvoline.com/our-product.../dexron-vi-atf

For those on the cheap: here is some AC Delco Dexron VI for $23 per gallon.
http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-10-903...line+dexron+vi
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Valvoline Dexron VI works great in the GM transmission, is a full synthetic, and is cheap from about anywhere.
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Pentosin atf $20 a quart? Maybe in Canada. I don't know. I can buy it for $10 a quart on ebay. As far as Maxlife being cheaper, yes it is but does not work well in these trannys. Stick with a thicker atf such as Pentosin, Mobil1 or Redline D4.
Yes, show us your data!

I have used in various transmissions and never have a problem. Need concrete data as opposed to opinions.


Cheapest i could find Pentosin ATF is $17.99 a litre at a retailer. If you have a real retailer for cheaper let me know.

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What I have is experience. I use Maxlife in my truck and my wife's 4runner. It works well in those applications. I tried it in my bmw and had cold start slipping. I have also heard others with the same issue using Dex6 compatible fluids such as Maxlife.

I found Pentosin on ebay for $50 something in a 5 quart container. I'm currently using Mobil1 atf which has been working fine.
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