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Old 03-01-2013, 11:14 AM   #41
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Simply because you don't want to go along with it does not preclude a person from doing it. Especially since we've established there is now law forbidding them from doing so.


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Partially agree, but HIS parents are going to court, which will establish precedent. At that point we may be legally forced to go along with crap like this. At least wizards are cool this is just an abused child with pink hair and a hippie mom
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #42
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I guess the word liability is of no concern to you.
The liability already exists. Like i said, do you think a sign on a door is actually going to stop a rapist? It doesn't today and never has. It does not increase liability.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:39 AM   #43
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We laugh at people who think they are Jesus or wizards ... Yet we're supposed to go along with this crap because it's sexual? Pass.
And society will still be allowed to laugh at this kid, should they so choose. Harass or physically bash, perhaps not. But, ridicule...yes. Society still has that right. People have the right to wear khakis and polo shirts, society has the right to ridicule them as imbeciles with no fashion sense. Society does not have the right to physically bash these self same fashion twips, no matter how much of a mercy it would be.

Nobody is saying you have to "go along with this crap". But, why should the kid need to suppress their expression of who they are just to pacify you either?
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:42 AM   #44
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If you are going to court and suing people to infringe your wants on their rights it becomes more than live and let live. Also there are laws against child abuse that we all agree are good or at least ok
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If you are going to court and suing people to infringe your wants on their rights it becomes more than live and let live. Also there are laws against child abuse that we all agree are good or at least ok
what right is exactly being infringed?
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what right is exactly being infringed?
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Can I be a transgenderd butch lesiban, so I can use the girls bathroom, and go in the girls shower at the gym?
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There is no right to privacy.
There is no right to privacy in the constitution; just as there is NO meantion of seperation of church and state in the constitution.

Also the constitution gives congress the right to hire pirates, yes pirates. I wannbe a godamn pirate.

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There is no right to privacy in the constitution; just as there is NO meantion of seperation of church and state in the constitution.

Also the constitution gives congress the right to hire pirates, yes pirates. I wannbe a godamn pirate.
The specific phrase is not mentioned, but this seems pretty clear:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...."
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The specific phrase is not mentioned, but this seems pretty clear:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...."
Congress yes, but it does NOT say anything about state or local goverment. I can use vaguisems too.
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There is no right to privacy in the constitution.
Thank you for driving home that point. And here I thought I'd have to repeat myself.
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There is no right to privacy.
Let's hear how this "right" is being infringed upon. When I use a public restroom and another person walks in--despite there are multiple stalls--is my "right to privacy" is being violated. No?

According to you if this is true, airport restrooms are the biggest violators. You know how many people are in there at one time? Many!
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There is no right to privacy.
As per the SCOTUS, there is. I also know that you already knew that.
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As per the SCOTUS, there is. I also know that you already knew that.
A woman's bathroom consists of individual stalls. Which statutes indicate that an individual cannot enter the general area of a restroom designated for the opposite sex?

Because unless this child is kicking down the stalls of other girls... no privacy is being invaded.


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How are their rights being violated? They are free to use that restroom as well.

Also, you have not shown that this is child abuse in any way. In fact, I gave the definition of abuse that clearly showed by your early post this could not be classified as such, and you totally ignored that.

Now if you care to present information/evidence, that does not contradict your previous stance, that this is child abuse. I am all ears. But so far on that topic...all you have posted is crickets.
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So basically establishments need to clarify with a sign "Penis Restroom" and "Vagina Restroom". Since we no longer have men and women by definition.
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How are their rights being violated? They are free to use that restroom as well.

Also, you have not shown that this is child abuse in any way. In fact, I gave the definition of abuse that clearly showed by your early post this could not be classified as such, and you totally ignored that.

Now if you care to present information/evidence, that does not contradict your previous stance, that this is child abuse. I am all ears. But so far on that topic...all you have posted is crickets.
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If you study child psychiatry, you will learn that everything you said is the OPPOSITE of your intended statements. It is completely meaningless. If your son was playing with your wife's makeup, it is completely meaningless. All it means is he might like the colors. He might like the brushes. Hell, maybe because he likes the smell of powder. My daughter (2.5 years old) likes to play with my craftsman sockets. Why? Because they are shiny and make a fun noise when smashed together. One of her first words was "Jeep." Is she a "car girl?" No. Jeep is incredibly easy for a child to say. My daughter plays with hot wheels, then when my wife comes home, she starts asking for jewelry, putting on my wifes heels, etc.

As for your son...his "like" for things "mechanical" is actually more simple than that. Your son likes toys with leverage and pivot points. Kids love that stuff. They love moving parts back and forth on a pivot point.

There is ZERO significance in child behavior at that age. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of sh!t. If your son wants to play with a barbie, it has nothing to do with his "feelings" his gender, or anything else. If your daughter is playing with your Dewalt, it is absolutely meaningless.

BTW, if you have a "normal" son, and you had the ability to isolate him, you can easily raise him to believe he is a girl..or a dog, or a superhero. Part of raising a child is to guide them in their development. I wanted my daughter to be a righty, so I made sure I placed everything in her right hand....etc...not everything is so pre-programmed like people claim.
I seem to strongly agree with everything you post.
This is all that needs said ^
The kid's parents in the article are clueless
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btw we live in a country where you can take children away from their parents if they name them Adolf Hitler...I'm pretty sure telling your male child that he's a girl is just as bad if not worse on the crappy parenting scale.
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