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Old 02-28-2013, 10:30 AM   #21
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Typical liberal drivel.

There is no case here, a non issue besides insane parents.

Idk about you, but 6 years should not be telling their parents what to do. I think the parents want to bring this to the court system. Huge waste of tax money.

Mom is hot though, would smash. Would triple wrap cause of insanity.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:33 AM   #22
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Well, my 5 year old daughter did ask me to play GI Joe the other day. Quick.... lemme force her to use the wall urinal
Reductio ad absurdum.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:34 AM   #23
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Well, my 5 year old daughter did ask me to play GI Joe the other day. Quick.... lemme force her to use the wall urinal
My 6 year old cousin told me he's a dinosaur.

I'm going to let him poop and pee outside from now on!
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:36 AM   #24
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My 6 year old cousin told me he's a dinosaur.

I'm going to let him poop and pee outside from now on!

Clearly he is transpecies. You should sue the school if they don't let him crap on the lawn!
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:39 AM   #25
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My 6 year old cousin told me he's a dinosaur.

I'm going to let him poop and pee outside from now on!

And that argument is about as sound as the "gays can marry?! what's next, are you gonna marry a kangaroo?!"

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:42 AM   #26
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And that argument is about as sound as the "gays can marry?! what's next, are you gonna marry a kangaroo?!"

Excellent example of highlighting the absurdity of their logic.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:43 AM   #27
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Or maybe his point is that kids are imaginative.

Just a thought.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:45 AM   #28
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Do you have any children? Specifically a 5-6 year old?

I played with cabbage patch dolls when I was 5, I even let my cousins dress me up. Did my parents force me to sit when I pee'd, put me dresses or demand my schools accept that I should use the girls room?

This kid might in fact turn out to be transgendered, ***, whatever.... but at 6? This is more nurture than nature IMHO
In for pics of JJ playing with cabbage patch kids and glocks.

JJ, your nature vs nuture argument can be flipped. Because the child started "identifying as a girl" at such a young age, one could argue that it was mostly nature instead of nuture cuz the child hadn't been alive long enough to be as affected by nuturing.

The younger the human, the more their behavior is driven by nature. Thats why infants and toddlers are studied so much, cuz they can be tested before society and family gets 'em all fvcked up.


Regardless, the question that needs to be answered here is why are bathroom facilities segregated by gender? Once we know the answer to that, it's a lot easier to figure out what the "right" thing to do is.
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Or maybe his point is that kids are imaginative.

Just a thought.
If that's the case then his preference would be to stifle imagination in order to conform to societal norms. That doesn't sound like a supportive parent to me. However, to imply this is simply a matter of imagination severely downplays what appears to be a much deeper issue.
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If that's the case then his preference would be to stifle imagination in order to conform to societal norms. That doesn't sound like a supportive parent to me. However, to imply this is simply a matter of imagination severely downplays what appears to be a much deeper issue.

Oh, and what's the much deeper issue.
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Kids can have all the imagination they want. The reality is, he has a wiener. The parents have a responsibility to distinguish reality from the imaginary when teaching their kids.

Parents like this allow their kids to call all of the shots.
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Oh, and what's the much deeper issue.
That the child is likely suffering from gender dysphoria which is rooted in cognition. It's alarming that I have to spell it out.
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What's the purpose of the rule in the first place? Why do we separate the bathrooms?

I think it's primarily anatomical; parts go with similar parts. Have penis, boys room. No penis, girls.

I fail to see how any other conclusion can be drawn here if you look to the very purpose of separation in the first place.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:17 AM   #35
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http://abcnews.go.com/m/video?id=18260857

what do you think about this "girl" interviewed by Barbara Walters?
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:19 AM   #36
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That the child is likely suffering from gender dysphoria which is rooted in cognition. It's alarming that I have to spell it out.
Cool.

One of my good friends, who I went through school with from middle school through high school transitioned from female to male. He was openly gay in high school. His parents were 100% supportive. He didn't transition until his mid 20's when he was SURE that's what he wanted.

Now this kid's parents have already decided FOR him. Hell, they changed his passport and identification cards already. The CHOICE IS GONE. You don't see what's wrong with this?

This isn't being supportive. It's a crusade and the kid is a martyr. Instead of supporting the kid and letting him make up his own mind and have the ability to CHANGE his mind as he grows older they've shoved it down his throat.
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That kid has a rough childhood ahead of it.
Yup.
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Now this kid's parents have already decided FOR him. Hell, they changed his passport and identification cards already. The CHOICE IS GONE. You don't see what's wrong with this?

This isn't being supportive. It's a crusade and the kid is a martyr. Instead of supporting the kid and letting him make up his own mind and have the ability to CHANGE his mind as he grows older they've shoved it down his throat.
You severely underestimate the rate at which cognition develops. There are plenty of documented cases of gender dysphoria among children. Stop pretending that changing the gender on the passport is the equivalent of having elective surgery to remove the child's genitalia. The latter has not happened and the former is reversible.

Children defy their parents all the time. You don't think something as powerful as gender identification won't supersede a parent's preference? Think of all the examples of parents who raised their children straight despite knowing they were homosexuals. Do you think that magically erases those innate desires?


Bro, please.
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You severely underestimate the rate at which cognition develops. There are plenty of documented cases of gender dysphoria among children. Stop pretending that changing the gender on the passport is the equivalent of having elective surgery to remove the child's genitalia. The latter has not happened and the former is reversible.

Children defy their parents all the time. You don't think something as powerful as gender identification won't supersede a parent's preference? Think of all the examples of parents who raised their children straight despite knowing they were homosexuals. Do you think that magically erases those innate desires?


Bro, please.
Did I ever say he may not be gay or transgender? No. But his parents' willingness to so quickly change his identification and their observation that he might be TG at 18 MONTHS OLD shows me THEIR preference.
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So what's the problem? If it has a dick it goes to the boy's bathroom. It would be highly inappropriate for "it" to be going in the girl's bathroom.
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