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Old 03-07-2013, 10:19 PM   #81
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:05 AM   #83
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Congrats on the kit ! I'm starting to lean tords the m3, Glad to see another kit out other than those people who indorse AEM I'm curious to see the longevity of the stock s54 making that power.

I'm crossing my fingers my engine will last , until I get the funds for a m3. and build it up


I'm wondering about the turbo drain on your setup, I had to run a scavenge pump then dump into dipstick.

P.S your asking price is decent, I might have to contact you guys for a intake mani.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:33 AM   #85
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:04 AM   #86
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1. This is not the only car running this power level with a stock engine and living. If you were killing the rings its because your tune was off.

2. The first part of solving your crack addiction is to admit you have a problem 60-130 times are not the best measure of a car, its just a way for cars that can't hook up to race each other. I'm not impressed with dyno numbers. I made 1450 rwhp 9 years ago. Show me what your street car can do at the track and lets compare apples to apples.

3. I'm very glad those guys are polite, we need more of that in the world

what he said .

wow, stock engine, stock rings, worn bore and worn rings wil blow by.

Have you ever heard of leak down tests?

Just do a leak down on a 70.000 miles S54 and see what I mean.

any S54 with over 50.000 miles will blow by at over 400 whp. let alone 600 whp.

If you drive like a grandmother it will hold
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:13 AM   #87
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Congrats on the kit ! I'm starting to lean tords the m3, Glad to see another kit out other than those people who indorse AEM I'm curious to see the longevity of the stock s54 making that power.

I'm crossing my fingers my engine will last , until I get the funds for a m3. and build it up


I'm wondering about the turbo drain on your setup, I had to run a scavenge pump then dump into dipstick.

P.S your asking price is decent, I might have to contact you guys for a intake mani.
We use good old gravity. We raised the turbo up enough to put on oil drain can under it that connects to the side of the oil pan through a factory plug. Adds about a quart of oil to the total volume.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:21 AM   #88
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what he said .

wow, stock engine, stock rings, worn bore and worn rings wil blow by.

Have you ever heard of leak down tests?

Just do a leak down on a 70.000 miles S54 and see what I mean.

any S54 with over 50.000 miles will blow by at over 400 whp. let alone 600 whp.

If you drive like a grandmother it will hold
I was waiting for a comment like this from you. I was wondering how much you really knew and now you have told me, not too much. This car has 101k miles on the engine. It is filmed from the front and you can still see behind the car. If the car had blow by you would see it under the hood and out the tail pipe. But its clean as a whistle. You might want to take an example from the Swedes right now and stay quite

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I was waiting for a comment like this from you. I was wondering how much you really knew and know you have told me, not too much. This car has 101k miles on the engine. It is filmed from the front and you an still see behind the car. If the car had blow by you would see it under the hood and out the tail pipe. But its clean as a whistle. You might want to take an example from the Swedes right now and stay quite
lol, Saad you are so right. i was going to comment or respond to Twin_Turbo_S54 but you hit it smack on the head. i may have to take a few days and fly to incirlik or izmir AB and meet this guy and see for myself what he's working with. i remember the drama on m3forum a couple years ago over the same none-sense.

My HPF stage 2 is putting down 661 rwhp on my STOCK Motor & has 119k now! not to mention it has been f/i for over 3 years and I drive it like i stole it when my kids are NOT in the car!

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Just out of curiosity, in your leak-down tests on a stock S54 with 70K miles, what sort of measurements (leakages) are you seeing?

I ask with about three separate issues loading the question:

1. Just curious.

2. I believe HPF declares that up to 5% variation is OK for 5 or 6 hundred HP builds. I can't remember where one of their reps said that but... If you are building a motor for 1k HP taking around 3 times the stock levels of cylinder pressure, it makes sense to be very anal about your compression, and certainly you may not accept a 5% "blow by". Does that seem about right to you?

3. Risk/reliability factors: The stock S54 has been seen to lift the head in HPF's ~1k hp builds. The solution they opted for was the installation of L19's that are over-torqued. There is a cylinder oval-ization issue that they address by torque plating the block when they do their honing and polishing. Obviously this oval-ization of the cylinders will create conditions that could complicate maintaining good compression. Perhaps the issues of 5% leak rears its head as a reliability issue, or as risk of failure for this reason, as you push the power envelope? Have you seen something similar?


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what he said .

wow, stock engine, stock rings, worn bore and worn rings wil blow by.

Have you ever heard of leak down tests?

Just do a leak down on a 70.000 miles S54 and see what I mean.

any S54 with over 50.000 miles will blow by at over 400 whp. let alone 600 whp.

If you drive like a grandmother it will hold
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lol, Saad you are so right. i was going to comment or respond to Twin_Turbo_S54 but you hit it smack on the head. i may have to take a few days and fly to incirlik or izmir AB and meet this guy and see for myself what he's working with. i remember the drama on m3forum a couple years ago over the same none-sense.

My HPF stage 2 is putting down 661 rwhp on my STOCK Motor & has 119k now! not to mention it has been f/i for over 3 years and I drive it like i stole it when my kids are NOT in the car!

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Rico, your car has been FI for 3 years.... that means nothing when its been sitting for over 2 and a half of those years lol maybe your ass should get a real job and stop having to goto afgan....jk
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We use good old gravity. We raised the turbo up enough to put on oil drain can under it that connects to the side of the oil pan through a factory plug. Adds about a quart of oil to the total volume.
Alright, you running a restrictor? any oil residue in the charge pipes or turbo inlet?

I still had oil seap past the compressor housing with a top mount. Additionally, it didn't get any better at the bottom with the 6266 and scavenge pump. you guys have similar issues?

You don't happen to have a pic of the turbo drain?

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Old 03-08-2013, 02:19 PM   #94
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lol, Saad you are so right. i was going to comment or respond to Twin_Turbo_S54 but you hit it smack on the head. i may have to take a few days and fly to incirlik or izmir AB and meet this guy and see for myself what he's working with. i remember the drama on m3forum a couple years ago over the same none-sense.

My HPF stage 2 is putting down 661 rwhp on my STOCK Motor & has 119k now! not to mention it has been f/i for over 3 years and I drive it like i stole it when my kids are NOT in the car!

j/s
welcome, I am in Istanbul. Drop me a mail and I ll pick you.

You may be the guy driving like a grandmother and thats why you dont have issues.

How many times do you go WOT (wide open throttle)?

do you go from 30 to 150 or from 40 to 140 or from 20 to 150 mph every day or each time you drive the m3?
with all the speed limitations over there, I think you just wot in second gear for a couple of times and Wheel spin and smile.

tell me the truth

I have an offer:

take your m3 to a track.

go from 30 to 160 mph for 100 times on the same day.

If your engine survives I ll apologize. Now thats my offer.

I am 100000 % sure that the engine will smoke or the rings will give up before the 75 th trial. Ask me how: I ve been F/I'ing S50 B32 for the last 13 years. Guys like you act like they know a lot in fact their cars are driven like grandmo's cars..
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I was waiting for a comment like this from you. I was wondering how much you really knew and know you have told me, not too much. This car has 101k miles on the engine. It is filmed from the front and you an still see behind the car. If the car had blow by you would see it under the hood and out the tail pipe. But its clean as a whistle. You might want to take an example from the Swedes right now and stay quite

Please take it to the track.

Go from 30 to 160 mph 100 times on the same day.

100 adjecant trials you ll get towed.

Do not tell me about "soft" 2nd gear runs, Wheel spins, exhaust sound, and excited teenager reactions.

BTW, Ebrahim Kanoo made 7,1 s / 200 mph with his IRS Supra. There are much faster supras out there.
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Please take it to the track.

Go from 30 to 160 mph 100 times on the same day.

100 adjecant trials you ll get towed.

Do not tell me about "soft" 2nd gear runs, Wheel spins, exhaust sound, and excited teenager reactions.

BTW, Ebrahim Kanoo made 7,1 s / 200 mph with his IRS Supra. There are much faster supras out there.

E Kanoos car is not even a supra any more. That is a chassis race car now complete with lexan windows, no floors , no interior etc. Can't compare that to a full interior car. Get serious.
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E Kanoos car is not even a supra any more. That is a chassis race car now complete with lexan windows, no floors , no interior etc. Can't compare that to a full interior car. Get serious.
You are defending your old friend like a lawyer.

OBJECTION

Saad should keep on doing what he is doing, I will keep on what I was doing.

Saad is very harsh and acts as if he knows everything. I dont want to argue with him. I ll spend my M3 preparing for drag racing
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You are defending your old friend like a lawyer.

No I am not, I am being logical (You might want to look up the definition of logical). Comparing a full out race car with a supra shell on it to a full interior 6 speed car with full interior etc is ...... well.... just plain stupid. If you are going to go that far, then why not compare Saads car to the low 6 second full chassis supras?
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Saad is very harsh

If you think this is harsh for Saad, you have not seen nothing yet. He has made many a grown man cry. LOL
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:50 PM   #100
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No I am not, I am being logical (You might want to look up the definition of logical). Comparing a full out race car with a supra shell on it to a full interior 6 speed car with full interior etc is ...... well.... just plain stupid. If you are going to go that far, then why not compare Saads car to the low 6 second full chassis supras?

yes you are correct, E Kanoo's supra is slower than saad's.

Saad has the fastest Supra and fastest M3 in the universe
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