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Old 03-08-2013, 04:09 AM   #21
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Had my 325ci for a year now, change brake and oil, maybe around $100-$200 for last year , maybe ill go another 60k before ill started checking my part

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Old 03-08-2013, 07:12 AM   #22
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My 2000 328ci has over 155,000 miles on it and I have owned it for the last 100,000 miles and almost 10 years. I do a lot of preventative maintenance on my car to keep it running properly. I have averaged around $2400 per year, or $200 per month with some years the annual expense has been as low as $1000 and other years it has been over $5000. The year that was over $5000 included about $1500 to deal with the rear subframe suspension mount failure, plus new tires (over $1000), new brakes (including a caliper) and a few other items. Check for rear subframe failure on your car because it can be an expensive fix.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:45 PM   #23
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Had my car for 4yrs and 6mo. Cost is averaged to 102 per month.
What do you get for that? What does it cover?
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:27 PM   #24
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Holy crap, I came into this thread specifically to post this picture! Can't believe it was done on the very first response

I spend too much time here...
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:30 PM   #25
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My 2000 328ci has over 155,000 miles on it and I have owned it for the last 100,000 miles and almost 10 years. I do a lot of preventative maintenance on my car to keep it running properly. I have averaged around $2400 per year, or $200 per month with some years the annual expense has been as low as $1000 and other years it has been over $5000. The year that was over $5000 included about $1500 to deal with the rear subframe suspension mount failure, plus new tires (over $1000), new brakes (including a caliper) and a few other items. Check for rear subframe failure on your car because it can be an expensive fix.
Eek. That one post right there might be enough to scare most folks into getting a Honyota.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:00 PM   #26
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damn, i mean I thought that was somewhat of a myth. I know this thread is probably beating a dead horse but, it cant be that much. what needs to be done other than regular oil changes and proper flushes of the systems at certain intervals. I have enough money to do whats proper on these cars, I just cant find the explanation to the dollar amounts that I read about.
Buy yourself a good DIY manual, turn to the section entitled Routine Maintenance, or something similar, and do what it says there and you will be fine. If you do about 10K miles a year and don't hammer it then you are looking at oil, oil filter, maybe plugs, air filter, pads once a year. Maybe coolant change. That's not a lot of money. Apart from periodic component failure, which is most likely to be a sensor, then anything beyond that is up to you. There are guys on here who have a replace-it-even-if-it-aint-broke policy which costs them mega bucks. That's up to them. Makes them feel better. But it certainly isn't necessary. Ask a BMW mechanic. They'll tell you that.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:51 PM   #27
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here is my point. Ill spend 1000 a year to maintain my bmw with no regrets. My issue is that, people are telling me that BMW is a money pit and i just dont agree. I want a bmw, they are enjoyable and beyond that a beautiful machine. Im just concerned because i continue to hear quite a mixed sku of answers. Any used vehicle at this point is going to require maintenance, but if its going to cost me more that I bought the car I find it hard to justify
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:59 PM   #28
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here is my point. Ill spend 1000 a year to maintain my bmw with no regrets. My issue is that, people are telling me that BMW is a money pit and i just dont agree. I want a bmw, they are enjoyable and beyond that a beautiful machine. Im just concerned because i continue to hear quite a mixed sku of answers. Any used vehicle at this point is going to require maintenance, but if its going to cost me more that I bought the car I find it hard to justify
Just do your research on the car...I just bought a 99 323i with 200,000 miles on it. A risk yes but the PO kept up on the PM...new power steering pump, AC compressor, struts, shocks, brakes, 90% tires, interior in primo shape and all electrical components work...

A few guys blasted me, and a lot of them insisted on an Prepurchase Inspection....I'm decent with cars and have my husband there to help with the heavy lifting and to make sure I don't mess anything up, but I always just trust my own judgement....you have to trust the car and yourself not to leave yourself stranded....

As far as the cost...I'm with you maybe I'm in denial but I plan on keeping the car stock and leaving it just as it is until the tranny goes than Im going to drop a manual in it...I just can't believe the cars are more of a money pit than going through 2 or 3 different used cars in the same length of time these cars are on the road for.

If your looking at any used car you need to have some money in reserve for repairs. My belief is that a BMW owner is in a whole other realm than regular car owners, and combined with the service provided at the dealer under warranties these cars are the best maintained and road ready cars there are available.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:40 PM   #29
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Well lets see....

2001 0
2002 0
2003 200 - brake and coolant flush
2004 1600 - thermostat, tires and oil change
2005 300 - oil changes and brake pads
2006 600 - fluid flush, oil changes, and belt tensioner
2007 1100 - an oil change and tires
2008 500 - water pump, expansion tank and oil change
2009 700 - fluid flushes, brake pads/rotors and oil change
2010 1100 - oil change and tires
2011 400 - oil change, a and c pillar replacement
2012 1200 - oil change, shocks and springs and fluid flush
2013 2500 so far - dsc control unit and VCG replacement

And I currently need new control arms, all bushings and bearings, brake pads/rotors and tires again. Most of the above was DIY, but some wasn't.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:57 AM   #30
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Well lets see....

2001 0
2002 0
2003 200 - brake and coolant flush
2004 1600 - thermostat, tires and oil change
2005 300 - oil changes and brake pads
2006 600 - fluid flush, oil changes, and belt tensioner
2007 1100 - an oil change and tires
2008 500 - water pump, expansion tank and oil change
2009 700 - fluid flushes, brake pads/rotors and oil change
2010 1100 - oil change and tires
2011 400 - oil change, a and c pillar replacement
2012 1200 - oil change, shocks and springs and fluid flush
2013 2500 so far - dsc control unit and VCG replacement

And I currently need new control arms, all bushings and bearings, brake pads/rotors and tires again. Most of the above was DIY, but some wasn't.
This is pretty good record keeping on The maintenance. Are the prices you listed for all parts and labor included?
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:09 AM   #31
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Well lets see....

2001 0
2002 0
2003 200 - brake and coolant flush
2004 1600 - thermostat, tires and oil change
2005 300 - oil changes and brake pads
2006 600 - fluid flush, oil changes, and belt tensioner
2007 1100 - an oil change and tires
2008 500 - water pump, expansion tank and oil change
2009 700 - fluid flushes, brake pads/rotors and oil change
2010 1100 - oil change and tires
2011 400 - oil change, a and c pillar replacement
2012 1200 - oil change, shocks and springs and fluid flush
2013 2500 so far - dsc control unit and VCG replacement

And I currently need new control arms, all bushings and bearings, brake pads/rotors and tires again. Most of the above was DIY, but some wasn't.
I figure the first two years, at least, still under warranty? So that leaves 11 years not under warranty? The total of your numbers above is $10,200. Also figure that the amount for 2013 will grow or could be considered part of 2012 since we are only 2.3 months into 2013.

So, going with 10 years that's $1020 per year. Going with 11, its $927.

Either way - plan on $1,000 a year average for maint. costs OP and be done with it.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:17 AM   #32
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In simple terms
- yes it is more expensive than an honyota
- but totally worth it !

Just don't go to the stealership for any servicing - that's all
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:20 AM   #33
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I bought my 330ci with 36k on the clock, and have DIY'd the following maintenance over the last 3 years:

FCABS at 38,000 miles
Both front wheel bearings at 41,000 miles
Full Inspection 2 at 58,865 miles
CVV at 59106 Miles
Left headlight ballast - 53,000 miles
Power steering fluid flush - 53,000 miles
Trans fluid flush (MT90) - 65,000 miles
Clutch fluid flush (super blue) - 65,000 miles
Brake fluid flush (super blue) - 65,000 miles
Belts/idler pulley/tensioner pulley - 66,000 miles
Water Pump/Expansion Tank & Coolant Flush - 88,000 miles
Inspection 1 - 88,000 miles
VANOS Seals - 94,500 miles
VCG - 94,500 miles
Pads/Rotors/Sensors - 98,000 miles
Right headlight ballast at 100,000 miles
Complete suspension refresh - 101,000 miles
1 full set of summer tires at unlogged miles
1 pair of rear summer tires at unlogged miles
1 full set of winter tires at unlogged miles
1 pair of rear winter tires at unlogged miles
Oil changes every 5,000 miles


It has averaged to about $1900/year or so, but I drive a lot. All in all, it has been worth it.

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Old 03-09-2013, 10:16 AM   #34
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what about for someone who puts around 8,000 miles on the car per year, Would you consider more or less maintenance for that amount of driving.

Oh and btw, this may sound stupid but i dont consider the cost of tires and oil changes as maintenance, to me thats every car no matter what, So i suppose i am really looking for bmw specific maintenance. I mean i realize you can drive a honyota for 5 years and do nothing but change the oil but its still a honyota....
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:23 AM   #35
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The E46 maybe $200 a year, she doesn't get driven much unless I go biking (has roof rack).

The E90 maybe $300 - $500 a year, that's 12,000 miles, mostly two oil changes, and some a few other items. My Jetta MK5 had similar maintenance expenses.

I honestly do not see much more of an expense when it comes to other cars regardless of price range. Of course both my Bimmers have been reliable.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:27 AM   #36
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The E46 maybe $200 a year, she doesn't get driven much unless I go biking (has roof rack).

The E90 maybe $300 - $500 a year, that's 12,000 miles, mostly two oil changes, and some a few other items. My Jetta MK5 had similar maintenance expenses.

I honestly do see much more of an expense when it comes to other cars regardless of price range. Of course both my Bimmers have been reliable.
this sounds like a lot less maintenance money than most have been discussing and also more reasonable to own, If you dont mind me asking, whats your mileage on your E46?
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:06 AM   #37
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this sounds like a lot less maintenance money than most have been discussing and also more reasonable to own, If you dont mind me asking, whats your mileage on your E46?
The E46 is at 137,000, the E90 is at 87,000.

I do my own oil changes, which is about $70 a pop for oil and filter, differential and manual tranny fluids at 30,000 miles, about have a shop do it, about $50 for each item. Coolant flush every couple of years, brakes when needed, etc.

Of course prices can change dramatically should I have a mechanical issue, such as a ball-joint bushing, coolant tank, leak, etc. So far, it's been only little items over a very long period of time.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:29 AM   #38
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right on, I figure that if I do most of the maintenance, I will be saving a lot of money and learning a thing or 2. during the summer time, I can spare some down time because I enjoy riding my road cycle (pedal bike) to work and back. As far as part costs, are things drastically more expensive than other cars, or are they fairly reasonable?
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:02 PM   #39
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I am the third owner. Currently at 164K miles.
First owner had extended warranty so the cost of maintenance was $0 for the first 5-6 years----- Average $0 per year
Second owner purchased at 94K miles and drove it 52K miles in 2.5 years and spent $6732 (excluding tires) at an indy shop- Average $2693/ year, $225 a month.
I am the third owner, bought at 146K miles and drove it 18K miles in 1 year and spent $2677 mostly DIY (excluding tires and tinted windows)- Average $2615/ year or $218 a month. I did a lot of big ticket PM items in my first year so hoping to bring the average closer to $100 this coming year. My to do list includes O2 sensors and new headlights because one is messed up. Running better now than when I bought it. Here is the list, Top section is my work.... nice thing is I have all receipts since mile 1.

2003 BMW 325 XIT
date Mileage Cost Service performed

2/2/13 162k $66.21 DIY- Front Brake Calipers- reman
12/29/12 160K $90.00 DIY- Oil and Filter Change- Air Filter change
12/1/12 158.5K $509.47 DIY- Power Steering pump- New LF30 (had to buy at dealer, ugh!!)
11/10/12 158K $330.00 DIY- replace DISA, Upper & Lower intake boot, F connector and FPR vacuum line, Clean ICV
10/11/12 157K $865.00 winter tires
10/16/12 157K $270.00 Tinted Windows
10/5/12 156.5K $420.00 DIY- Replace radiator and Water Pump- New Hoses upper and Lower
8/6/12 153k $98.65 DIY- Change Power steering fluid and filter
6/1/12 152K $90.00 DIY- Oil and Filter Change
4/20/12 148.5K $455.53 Indy Shop - cv boot and axle replaced due to torn boot- Drivers side
3/12/12 148k $168.00 DIY- Fuel Pump and Gasket
3/9/12 147K $264.51 DIY- Front Brake Pads and Rotors
3/2/12 147K $75.00 DIY- Valve Cover Gasket
2/25/12 147K $48.00 DIY- Replaced Cabin Air and Engine Air Filter
SOLD CAR to Mark

12/1/11 144k $230.00 New battery
11/1/11 143k $85.00 Oil and filter service
11/1/11 143k $0.00 Tires rotated
10/1/11 141k $230.00 New windshield
8/1/11 140k $987.00 cooling system expansion tank and thermostat replaced. Full system flush
2/1/11 135k $718.00 replaced gasket to oil filter housing. Very Common leak area. Replaced Ac belt tensioner pulley
1/1/11 133k $474.00 cv boot and axle replaced due to torn boot- Passenger side
9/1/10 126k $675.00 new Yokohama 520 tires
8/1/10 125k $1,550.00 level II service. All fluids changed incl. coolant system, brake fluid, spark plugs, transmission flush
all filters changed. Including Fuel filter
8/1/10 125k $700.00 Control arm bushings replaced, sway bar links
6/1/10 122k $608.00 front brakes - new rotors and pads
5/1/10 120k $562.00 rear brakes- new rotors and pads
12/1/09 109k $588.00 New belt and replaced thermostat. Very common to have the thermostat go bad
Jul-09 94k Chris Purchased car. Local. All service records obtained.

Total $11,219.06 Total For Both Chris and Mark

Original Owner
1/9/09 90,203 $0.00 thermostate replaced, computer/module checked, Secondary Air Pump and valve replaced
10/24/08 87,455 $0.00 Oil Change
10/10/07 74,745 $0.00 Oil Change, coolant flush, brake fluid change
11/27/06 63,024 $0.00 Oil Change
10/5/05 45,155 $0.00 Ignition Coils changed at 39K miles
10/29/04 29,544 $0.00 Oil Change
3/15/04 14,084 $0.00 Oil Change
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:13 PM   #40
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As I read all of these prices, I'm just wondering where the hell are you guys getting parts from?

I get literally everything from FCPgroton/FCPeuro and you guys are scaring OP with these prices.

I've barely spent over 2.5k and replaced everything in my pictures.

I'll probably exceed 3k after my struts and stuff though.
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