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Old 03-12-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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Cool Oil Pan Gasket HELP! small leak

Does anyone know how much in labor it costs to do the replacement if I supply the oil pan gasket? I have a small leak, and want to get it done soon. I already done the VCG, and I've already checked and it's not leaking anymore. Today I had the car lifted and found the other source to the the pan.....great!
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:48 AM   #2
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If you are sure it's the pan, then labor is around $500-$1000.
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is that at a euro indie shop? or BMW dealer price?
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is that at a euro indie shop? or BMW dealer price?
indy shop. dealer would be a lot more. the engine has to be supported and the subframe lowered. many things need to be detached. i'd address the oil pump nut while you're in there.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #5
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when i removed the bottom engine splash cover, it was alot of oil. which i believe was from the VCG cause when it began to leak I waited almost a month to actually change it. I monitor my oil levels much more now. But at least I don't have the burning oil smell anymore... I used to have 6-9inch diameters of oil in the mornings from the VCG leaks, but after that repair it's now 2-4 inch puddles. small but still bothers me...
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I did my OPG and it took 2 days.
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I know my mechanic at my shop allows me to help with repairs...Maybe because of the process, we can both work on it at the same time. Kill the hourly down a tad
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indy shop. dealer would be a lot more. the engine has to be supported and the subframe lowered. many things need to be detached. i'd address the oil pump nut while you're in there.
Remove aluminum belly brace. It's only six bolts for the subframe and motor mounts. Need to use an engine brace or hoist. Disconnect the steering guibo. That's one small bolt. That's it. Not hard at all. Just lower the subframe than you have complete access to the pan.
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Remove aluminum belly brace. It's only six bolts for the subframe and motor mounts. Need to use an engine brace or hoist. Disconnect the steering guibo. That's one small bolt. That's it. Not hard at all. Just lower the subframe than you have complete access to the pan.
Easier said than done. I've done the job three times.
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Easier said than done. I've done the job three times.
How Long Does it take to do?
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first time i did it, it took 12-13 hours. i can probably do it in 10 now? i work efficiently but carefully . you'll want to have a helper for the heavy bits as the subframe can be downright awkward to realign especially when you have 3,200 lbs of car above you
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Easier said than done. I've done the job three times.
HA, but then you're forgetting to mention the 23 bolts that hold the pan in that are a PAIN in the ASS to remove and reinstall! that is like the worst part of this entire thing.
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HA, but then you're forgetting to mention the 23 bolts that hold the pan in that are a PAIN in the ASS to remove and reinstall! that is like the worst part of this entire thing.
oh yeah. that will tire you out like a dog. the subframe has to be dropped really low to comfortably access the center ones. the torque on the subframe bolts is also another body killer as well as torquing down the late model reinforcement plate. two stage torque...
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Remove aluminum belly brace. It's only six bolts for the subframe and motor mounts. Need to use an engine brace or hoist. Disconnect the steering guibo. That's one small bolt. That's it. Not hard at all. Just lower the subframe than you have complete access to the pan.
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Easier said than done. I've done the job three times.
Guys.... he has an XI. Whole front subrame and front diff need to be dropped........

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Its a bear. I have been able to stave off my leaking XI oil pan for over a year now. I re-torqued as many of the bolts as I could reach (16 or so). If you do it bring the engine up to operating temp first before trying to re-torque and be gentle. You don't want to strip any.
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Guys.... he has an XI. Whole front subrame and front diff need to be dropped........



Its a bear. I have been able to stave off my leaking XI oil pan for over a year now. I re-torqued as many of the bolts as I could reach (16 or so). If you do it bring the engine up to operating temp first before trying to re-torque and be gentle. You don't want to strip any.
yeah i'm sure there's extra complexity with the XI front diff but i didn't want to say anything i wasn't sure of. thanks for the clarifcation
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet but are you sure it's the OPG and not the OFHG? The oil filter housing gasket is a well known leaker and as it drips down (left/driver side of block only) it makes it appear that it's the OPG. If there is no evidence of a leak on the pass/right side that it's likely just the < $10 OFH gasket and a simple DIY job to replace.

You can check inbetween PS reservoir and throttle body/intake manifold and maybe see if you can see through to the block where the OFH gasket will likely leak
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first time i did it, it took 12-13 hours. i can probably do it in 10 now? i work efficiently but carefully . you'll want to have a helper for the heavy bits as the subframe can be downright awkward to realign especially when you have 3,200 lbs of car above you
The XI front diff aside, what's so hard about raising the subframe into place? It was a simple process. I did it with a floor jack in a few minutes.

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I haven't seen it mentioned yet but are you sure it's the OPG and not the OFHG? The oil filter housing gasket is a well known leaker and as it drips down (left/driver side of block only) it makes it appear that it's the OPG. If there is no evidence of a leak on the pass/right side that it's likely just the < $10 OFH gasket and a simple DIY job to replace.

You can check inbetween PS reservoir and throttle body/intake manifold and maybe see if you can see through to the block where the OFH gasket will likely leak
yeah that's why i told the op if he's sure. sometimes other stuff can leak giving false impression. +1

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The XI front diff aside, what's so hard about raising the subframe into place? It was a simple process. I did it with a floor jack in a few minutes.
every situation is different depending on what you removed/didn't remove. i did it on a lift so standing doesn't give you the same leverage as if your back is on the ground. it's more awkward to wrestle the subframe that way
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My front subframe was damaged. my mechanic charged me only $100 to put in the new one!! It's not really too hard just the hard part is supporting the engine properly while you're working on it
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Got mine done for.$415 labor only but its not an XI....I supplied parts/oil.
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