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Old 03-13-2013, 05:56 AM   #21
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Went and got my finger prints digitally scanned 2 weeks ago... still waiting for word on my permit.

I just thought bees would be a cool thing to have in the neighborhood. I'd put them up on the hill in the back. I guess it's best to have a flower garden or fruit bearing trees in very close proximity of the hive... which I don't have.
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do it, more honey bee's the better...as long as the don't get too rowdy.
Important for pollination to a lot of plant species and honey is a great natural product beneficial to the body. I think there's been a die-off in the last few decades from disease and competing with africanized species/breeds that don't produce as much honey.
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Went and got my finger prints digitally scanned 2 weeks ago... still waiting for word on my permit.

I just thought bees would be a cool thing to have in the neighborhood. I'd put them up on the hill in the back. I guess it's best to have a flower garden or fruit bearing trees in very close proximity of the hive... which I don't have.
Bees fly several miles to find pollen. I would not worry about not having an orchard near. They'll find it. When bees find a new source of pollen they fly back to the hive and do a little bee dance in the air telling every one the direction and distance to the food source. Don't ask me how they know, but it works.

BTW, I don't know how close you are to your neighbors, but you mmmmight want to check your city/county zoning regulations before you do this. It might be regarded as farming, maintaining a farm animal, maintaining a public nuisance or something similar. You neighbors might not share your appreciation for bee keeping and having 10k honeybees next door to their homes. There might be an ordinance against them where you live.
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Good points Ray. I'll do a little checking. My wife is in objection... but I can overrule her.
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What do you do with said bee's? Honey?
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Cinnamon and Honey

Drug companies won't like this one getting around. Facts on Honey and Cinnamon:
It is found that a mix of honey and Cinnamon cures most diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of the world. Scientists of today also note honey as very effective medicine for all kinds of diseases. Honey can be used without side effects which is also a plus.Today's science says that even though honey is sweet, when it is taken in the right dosage as a medicine, it does not harm even diabetic patients. Researched by western scientists:

HEART DISEASES: Make a paste of honey and cinnamon powder, put it on toast instead of jelly and jam and eat it regularly for breakfast. It reduces the cholesterol and could potentially save one from heart attack. Also, even if you have already had an attack studies show you could be kept miles away from the next attack. Regular use of cinnamon honey strengthens the heart beat. In America and Canada, various nursing homes have treated patients successfully and have found that as one ages the arteries and veins lose their flexibility and get clogged; honey and cinnamon revitalize the arteries and the veins.

ARTHRITIS: Arthritis patients can benefit by taking one cup of hot water with two tablespoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinnamon powder. When taken daily even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research conducted at the Copenhagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon Cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week (out of the 200 people so treated) practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain -- and within a month, most all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis now started walking without pain.

BLADDER INFECTIONS: Take two tablespoons of cinnamon powder and one teaspoon of honey in a glass of lukewarm water and drink it. It destroys the germs in the bladder....who knew?

CHOLESTEROL: Two tablespoons of honey and three teaspoons of Cinnamon Powder mixed in 16 ounces of tea water given to a cholesterol patient was found to reduce the level of cholesterol in the blood by 10 percent within two hours. As mentioned for arthritic patients, when taken three times a day, any chronic cholesterol-could be cured. According to information received in the said Journal, pure honey taken with food daily relieves complaints of cholesterol.

COLDS: Those suffering from common or severe colds should take one tablespoon lukewarm honey with 1/4 spoon cinnamon powder daily for three days. This process will cure most chronic cough, cold, and, clear the sinuses, and it's delicious too!

UPSET STOMACH: Honey taken with cinnamon powder cures stomach ache and also is said to clear stomach ulcers from its root.

GAS: According to the studies done in India and Japan, it is revealed that when Honey is taken with cinnamon powder the stomach is relieved of gas.

IMMUNE SYSTEM: Daily use of honey and cinnamon powder strengthens the immune system and protects the body from bacterial and viral attacks. Scientists have found that honey has various vitamins and iron in large amounts. Constant use of Honey strengthens the white blood corpuscles (where DNA is contained) to fight bacterial and viral diseases.

INDIGESTION: Cinnamon powder sprinkled on two tablespoons of honey taken before food is eaten relieves acidity and digests the heaviest of meals

INFLUENZA: A scientist in Spain has proved that honey contains a natural 'Ingredient' which kills the influenza germs and saves the patient from flu.

LONGEVITY: Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly, arrests the ravages of old age. Use four teaspoons of honey, one teaspoon of cinnamon powder, and three cups of boiling water to make a tea. Drink 1/4 cup, three to four times a day. It keeps the skin fresh and soft and arrests old age. Life spans increase and even a 100 year old will start performing the chores of a 20-year-old.

RASPY OR SORE THROAT: When throat has a tickle or is raspy, take one tablespoon of honey and sip until gone. Repeat every three hours until throat is without symptoms.

PIMPLES: Three tablespoons of honey and one teaspoon of cinnamon powder paste. Apply this paste on the pimples before sleeping and wash it off the next morning with warm water. When done daily for two weeks, it removes all pimples from the root.

SKIN INFECTIONS:Applying honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts on the affected parts cures eczema, ringworm and all types of skin Infections.

WEIGHT LOSSaily in the morning one half hour beforebreakfast and on an empty stomach, and at night before sleeping, drink honey and cinnamon powder boiled in one cup of water. When taken regularly, it reduces the weight of even the most obese person. Also, drinking this mixture regularly does not allow the fat to accumulate in the body even though the person may eat a high calorie diet.

CANCER: Recent research in Japan and Australia has revealed that advanced cancer of the stomach and bones have been cured successfully. Patients suffering from these kinds of cancer should daily take one tablespoon of honey with one teaspoon of cinnamon powder three times a day for one month.

FATIGUE: Recent studies have shown that the sugar content of honey is more helpful rather than being detrimental to the strength of the body. Senior citizens who take honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts are more alert and flexible. Dr. Milton, who has done research, says that a half tablespoon of honey taken in a glass of water and sprinkled with cinnamon powder, even when the vitality of the body starts to decrease, when taken daily after brushing and in the afternoon at about 3:00 P.M., the vitality of the body increases within a week.

BAD BREATH: People of South America, gargle with one teaspoon of honey and cinnamon powder mixed in hot water first thing in the morning so their breath stays fresh throughout the day.

HEARING LOSS: Daily morning and night honey and cinnamon powder, taken in equal parts restores hearing.
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One of my hobbies is raising extremely aggressive, Africanized killer bees. I keep them in a special hive in my basement. Anytime I hear about someone setting up a new hive in the neighborhood or my town I will gather up about a thousand of my special bees into a bag, go to the person's house, and release my bees in the middle of the night. My bees home in on the new hive, kill all the worker bees, enslave the queen, and start propagating. Within a few days the bees will start attacking the beekeeper and all nearby humans. As a self-described practitioner of the apian arts, I find this a satisfying and beautiful way to interact with nature.
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Went and got my finger prints digitally scanned 2 weeks ago... still waiting for word on my permit.

I just thought bees would be a cool thing to have in the neighborhood. I'd put them up on the hill in the back. I guess it's best to have a flower garden or fruit bearing trees in very close proximity of the hive... which I don't have.
like ray said, they will go miles for food, so no worries there. but yes, certainly check your city ordinances. your neighbors most likely won't even know they are there as long as you place them in an appropriate spot. they treat the hive entrance like an airport flying in and out, so point the entrance away from anyone's house or car. they do take shits in the air, so if they are flying over your car all the time you will notice little spots.

dadant is a really good place to buy supplies.

this starter kit is a good one



never know how fast the colony will grow and if you will get honey in the first year. i got a lot my first year because it was a great season by chance. you may or may not need a super where they will store honey, but you can decide if you want to get one now or wait.



you will also need the wax foundation for the super frames



a queen excluder keeps the queen from going into the super and laying eggs where they are supposed to store honey.



so that's about $200 to get started without the bees. not bad. i've used draper bee and they are pretty good. you will need a 3lb package of bees which come with a queen. $125 which includes shipping and insurance. if you are serious about starting this year you will want to get the bees on order asap or everyone will sell out and you will have to wait until next year. they will ship in May, so you will have time to order your hive and assemble it and read about beekeeping before they arrive in the MAIL!

http://www.draperbee.com/beesupplies...Bee_Prices.htm

this is how they ship to you. they have a can of sugar syrup to feed them.



the queen is in her own little cage inside the box to protect her. you basically just wedge the queen's cage between two of your hives frames and then dump the bees from the package into the hive and then put the cover on. there is a sugar candy plug that the bees eat to get to the queen to release her within a day or so.



bees are pretty cool. the honey is amazing and will taste different during different parts of the season and from year to year.
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Great info 217Bimmer. Thx for taking the time to explain some things to me. I think I will be waiting a year but I like the whole idea of having the bees around.
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One of my hobbies is raising extremely aggressive, Africanized killer bees. I keep them in a special hive in my basement. Anytime I hear about someone setting up a new hive in the neighborhood or my town I will gather up about a thousand of my special bees into a bag, go to the person's house, and release my bees in the middle of the night. My bees home in on the new hive, kill all the worker bees, enslave the queen, and start propagating. Within a few days the bees will start attacking the beekeeper and all nearby humans. As a self-described practitioner of the apian arts, I find this a satisfying and beautiful way to interact with nature.
thanks VD you know how to start things off don't you.
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like ray said, they will go miles for food, so no worries there. but yes, certainly check your city ordinances. your neighbors most likely won't even know they are there as long as you place them in an appropriate spot. they treat the hive entrance like an airport flying in and out, so point the entrance away from anyone's house or car. they do take shits in the air, so if they are flying over your car all the time you will notice little spots.

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never know how fast the colony will grow and if you will get honey in the first year. i got a lot my first year because it was a great season by chance. you may or may not need a super where they will store honey, but you can decide if you want to get one now or wait.



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so that's about $200 to get started without the bees. not bad. i've used draper bee and they are pretty good. you will need a 3lb package of bees which come with a queen. $125 which includes shipping and insurance. if you are serious about starting this year you will want to get the bees on order asap or everyone will sell out and you will have to wait until next year. they will ship in May, so you will have time to order your hive and assemble it and read about beekeeping before they arrive in the MAIL!

http://www.draperbee.com/beesupplies...Bee_Prices.htm

this is how they ship to you. they have a can of sugar syrup to feed them.



the queen is in her own little cage inside the box to protect her. you basically just wedge the queen's cage between two of your hives frames and then dump the bees from the package into the hive and then put the cover on. there is a sugar candy plug that the bees eat to get to the queen to release her within a day or so.



bees are pretty cool. the honey is amazing and will taste different during different parts of the season and from year to year.
^^ This guy knows his stuff. My dad kept bees when I was little and forced me to wear the f'n suit and go deal with the bees. I hate bees, well, they don't really bother me, I guess I just hated the honey making process. Super amounts of work to get some honey and they used to give some away as gifts, but honestly, how much honey can one person consume? Not really worth the time and effort in my honest opinion unless you are bored and are looking for something to do. Got one inside my mesh helmet once, that was fun, like a cage around your face with a rat in it. Had to smash it against my neck to kill it but it still stung me back there. My dad used to go at the hives with bare hands so they would sting him there and he always claimed it helped with his arthritis. Sometimes he had hundreds of stingers, and you know that you need to carve out the honey bee stinger because their ass rips off with it, so that musta been fun for my mom. F beekeeping!

Tap your maple trees now and make some syrup, much easier and less expensive and more rewarding.
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Great info 217Bimmer. Thx for taking the time to explain some things to me. I think I will be waiting a year but I like the whole idea of having the bees around.
then you'll have plenty of time to read and learn more. many colleges or continuing ed classes on bees can be found. might look into that. also, local beekeepers will usually let you tag along when they are looking at their hives so you can learn first hand. there may "bee" a local bee club near you to check out.
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This is a cool thread guys. I work bees for my church pastor in orwell, vt. Lots of fun, very cool process
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^^ This guy knows his stuff. My dad kept bees when I was little and forced me to wear the f'n suit and go deal with the bees. I hate bees, well, they don't really bother me, I guess I just hated the honey making process. Super amounts of work to get some honey and they used to give some away as gifts, but honestly, how much honey can one person consume? Not really worth the time and effort in my honest opinion unless you are bored and are looking for something to do. Got one inside my mesh helmet once, that was fun, like a cage around your face with a rat in it. Had to smash it against my neck to kill it but it still stung me back there. My dad used to go at the hives with bare hands so they would sting him there and he always claimed it helped with his arthritis. Sometimes he had hundreds of stingers, and you know that you need to carve out the honey bee stinger because their ass rips off with it, so that musta been fun for my mom. F beekeeping!

Tap your maple trees now and make some syrup, much easier and less expensive and more rewarding.
^ I'm with this guy. I don't like bees but the overall knowledge base in E46F OT is simply astounding.

Another plus, maple trees don't sting.

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