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Old 03-20-2013, 02:08 PM   #41
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Lol Zimbrick wants $890 plus tax for a new pump. It costs what, $150 for a pump and 30 minutes to replace it?
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:15 PM   #42
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Can the dealership do a compression test without the car warmed up? It barely runs due to the low fuel pressure. The dealership it came from is 3 hours away, the local dealer is the one looking at it. They are asking for a fax of the diagnosis of the vehicle after Zimbrick is done checking it out.
Yes you can, but you'll get better readings warm like was said before. The seals are all expanded and the oil is the right viscosity when warm.

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Lol Zimbrick wants $890 plus tax for a new pump. It costs what, $150 for a pump and 30 minutes to replace it?
Give them the run down. "Are you ****ing kidding me? I can buy a pump for <$200 and install it in < 1 hour. How do you justify $890? What do you charge for a head gasket if a fuel pump is $890?!? Don't try to screw me again. I'm not stupid."
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:27 PM   #43
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I'll just cough up the $200 and get the compression test.
Lol, what?

Compression tests are free. Buy the $40 tester, use it for an hour, return it the next day.

Total cost: your time.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:36 PM   #44
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The only problem is the dealership I bought it from wants the work done by a qualified BMW service station. if I want a compression test done it has to be done by them. I'll just cough up the cash for insurance for now, at least I will know if I have any bent valves. I'd rather be safe than sorry, fix the fuel pump after I know for sure. Chances are the dealership in Chicago will eat the bill for that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:11 AM   #45
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Engine is shot... Like 13 to 20 psi on the first 3 cylinders.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #46
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I take my engine to 7,000 a bit (never money shifted) and I have never had an issue. So definitely a mechanical over rev.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:07 AM   #47
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Engine is shot... Like 13 to 20 psi on the first 3 cylinders.
Unlucky you.

For the record, a compression test does NOT take a BMW certified..blah blah. You just got shafted $200.
Nobody but you would ever know if you did the test at home like suggested.

Lucky for me you didnít waste $800+ for a fuel pump you didnít need.
This dealership you go to, run far far away from it.

Start reading threads here and save your money. Youíll need to Ė a new engine isnít cheap.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:41 PM   #48
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Well, I don't know how accurate that compression test really was as the car had been sitting out in very very cold weather for the last 48 hours, and it was done with it not warmed up. If I bent a valve severely I think I would be able to hear it. The dealership was convinced there was nothing wrong with the engine until I had them check it. They were very suspicious with me over the phone today, considering how persistant I was about checking it. Looks like I gotta pay for this one. I only got about $800 left to mess with it after all this crap, guess it's going on the card for now, I'll pay it off as fast as I can, just need my car back!

Probably just a head, leakdown test will confirm.

I can get a reman head for $1200 shipped, and an engine for $2800 shipped. Both come with 3 year unlimited mile warranty. If these blocks can hold up to a 9k money shift, a 7.5k one should be fine.

Oh, also getting me a Rogue transmission mount. So this never happens again!
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #49
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First thing that came out of their mouth was "replacement head" and "possible bent valves". They advised me that it was unlikely the entire engine was bad. How many hours of labor are we looking at for a head replacement? 10-15, I hear...

$1,200 for head
$1,000 for labor
$350 for towing and dealer to check
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$2,550 mistake.

Ouch.
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That's why they call it a money shift.

Anyway, go with the new head. A new engine will have even more hours of labor involved. Your block is fine. The pistons may have some small dents in the top but that won't affect anything.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:37 PM   #51
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First thing that came out of their mouth was "replacement head" and "possible bent valves". They advised me that it was unlikely the entire engine was bad. How many hours of labor are we looking at for a head replacement? 10-15, I hear...

$1,200 for head
$1,000 for labor
$350 for towing and dealer to check
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$2,550 mistake.

Ouch.
Zimbrick is high priced but they are (or at least we're) a good shop. Here's hoping for the best!!!!

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:41 PM   #52
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If it were me, I would do all the work my self. It isn't all that hard to do a head. And really, if its just bent valves, I would just order those and maybe a top end rebuild kit. For example, valve guides seals, head gasket and so on. It would save you much much much money. But I understand not everyone has the skills or the time.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:04 AM   #53
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I want to tear this damn thing apart and check it out myself. I'm excited to get my baby back. Lol right from the get go, I named her Abbie, because I had an ex that was gorgeous to look at, rided nice rofl, but caused tons of problems, and that was her name.

I think after all this, the name sticks!!!

Will keep you all posted, this is becoming a rebuild thread, starting now.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #54
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It's seems cheaper to replace the engine than the head?
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:33 PM   #55
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Threads like this make me reconsider my next e46 being manual...

Sorry to hear OP, good luck on the rebuild.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:04 PM   #56
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It's seems cheaper to replace the engine than the head?
Absolutely. That's the route I would go. Though the block warping is unlikely, if it was and you replaced the head....
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:15 PM   #57
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How many hours of labor does that entail?

I got a used motor lined up from Bavarian Auto Recycling for $2,500 shipped. 82k miles.

Oh, anyone got an M54 cheaper? I hear people get rid of them on here for $1,000?

For the record, I have no interest in swapping an S54 block in, so please refrain from telling me to put one in lol. I'm a college student, and will probably have to refinance my loan and be upside down just to get it back on the road.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:15 PM   #58
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Are you going to do the head? It's not that bad. I am about to do it on mine. I found a head pretty cheap.
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$2500 is a little steeper than I though; I might just do the head if that's the case. I can't tell you labor hrs because I'm not your shop and it varies. R&R and engine is going to be more $ than just a head, I would imagine.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:58 PM   #60
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It's so hard to decide.

Head is $1600 in parts, labor, at least $1700. Total of $3300
Engine is $2500, labor is $500, total of $3000.

I don't have the tools or time to attempt this challenge, so I gotta pay someone cash. It's much simpler to just do a 5-6 hour swap. M54 is common. I can even get a good chunk of cash for my old block.
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