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Old 03-19-2013, 04:02 PM   #1
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Dems Drop AWB part of proposed gun legislation

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Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that a proposed ban on semi-automatic firearms modeled after military assault weapons has no chance of passing the Senate, but he wants to ensure a vote on it will take place.

The proposal to update a similar 1994 ban that expired a decade later was one of four measures passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee in response to the Connecticut school massacre in December.

Reid, D-Nevada, told reporters he won't keep the proposed ban in gun legislation going to the full Senate for consideration because including it would guarantee the measure would be blocked by a Republican filibuster.

The ban proposed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, and fiercely opposed by the National Rifle Association, Republicans and some Democrats would get fewer than 40 votes, Reid said, far below the threshold needed to defeat a filibuster or pass the Senate.

Instead, Feinstein could propose the ban as an amendment to the gun legislation on the Senate floor in order to get a vote on it, Reid said.

The other proposals passed by the Senate committee would expand background checks, toughen laws against gun trafficking and straw purchases, and design steps to improve school safety.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:03 PM   #2
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Finally, a shred of sense. Now trash the rest of it.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:04 PM   #3
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:03 PM   #5
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Still gotta watch what the states do....
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VA should remain pro gun. haven't had any issues at all here.
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the fight is far from over. i wouldnt call this a victory. they will always want our freedoms, they just havent tricked us into giving them up just yet,
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It is far from over. They are just moving it to the Senate omnibus committee to try and sneak it in through the backdoor. They want to make it an amendment and probably drag it out. I wouldn't let my guard down on this at all.

The individual states are still going Full Retard. I am still waiting to hear what the NY supreme court rules when Cuomo can't provide constitutional basis for their legislation. If that gets reversed, I'm sure we'll see a massive slew of lawsuits popping up.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:22 PM   #9
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Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that a proposed ban on semi-automatic firearms modeled after military assault weapons has no chance of passing the Senate, but he wants to ensure a vote on it will take place.

The proposal to update a similar 1994 ban that expired a decade later was one of four measures passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee in response to the Connecticut school massacre in December.

Reid, D-Nevada, told reporters he won't keep the proposed ban in gun legislation going to the full Senate for consideration because including it would guarantee the measure would be blocked by a Republican filibuster.

The ban proposed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, and fiercely opposed by the National Rifle Association, Republicans and some Democrats would get fewer than 40 votes, Reid said, far below the threshold needed to defeat a filibuster or pass the Senate.

Instead, Feinstein could propose the ban as an amendment to the gun legislation on the Senate floor in order to get a vote on it, Reid said.

The other proposals passed by the Senate committee would expand background checks, toughen laws against gun trafficking and straw purchases, and design steps to improve school safety.
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I believe that's how we wound up with the '94 ban.
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The individual states are still going Full Retard. I am still waiting to hear what the NY supreme court rules when Cuomo can't provide constitutional basis for their legislation. If that gets reversed, I'm sure we'll see a massive slew of lawsuits popping up.
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i could only hope that if the law is reversed that the court's decision can be used to overturn the firearms restrictions brought on by the 94 awb regarding the tele-stocks, pinned muzzle devices and mag capacity
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i could only hope that if the law is reversed that the court's decision can be used to overturn the firearms restrictions brought on by the 94 awb regarding the tele-stocks, pinned muzzle devices and mag capacity
Whoa! I'm all for that! It sounds a little optimistic and Anti gunners might riot if that happens.
Us......I mean THOSE gun owners are still in CT's crosshairs so there is still a good chance of bad laws locally.

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Finally, a shred of sense. Now trash the rest of it.
It's too late. Fuktards in NY and MD have already pushed their cr@p legislation through regardless of common sense.

Oh wow, scary black rifles.... ruuuuuuuuuun.
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The problem is that this local legislation is violating McDonald vs Chicago and Hellier vs DC. I would suspect that as this stuff gets to SCOTUS, we'll see some movement. Unfortunately, we don't have a legal system that will establish an immediate injunction any legislation until it's been ruled on. Basically, we're going to be guilty and have to prove our innocence, versus the other way around.
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i saw something about the president looking towards the UN to pass international gun laws? anyone have anymore on this?
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i saw something about the president looking towards the UN to pass international gun laws? anyone have anymore on this?
This would be the most egregious of all... to say to the world that only the ruling party can have access to firearms... what kind of cr@p is that?
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i saw something about the president looking towards the UN to pass international gun laws? anyone have anymore on this?
It would be a convenient back door for liberal democrats to get what they want. We'd only have to give up a bit of sovereignty.

We've never done that before, but "if we can save just one life, it'll be worth it"
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Whoa! I'm all for that! It sounds a little optimistic and Anti gunners might riot if that happens.
Us......I mean THOSE gun owners are still in CT's crosshairs so there is still a good chance of bad laws locally.

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i saw something about the president looking towards the UN to pass international gun laws? anyone have anymore on this?
I think either Eric Holder or someone from the Obama administration has contacted the SCOTUS to have them start to determine the legality of the US being required to adhere to a UN resolution domestically, or whether our Constitution superceded the UN.

To people with half a brain like you and me, this is a no-brainer and it's obvious that our Constitution should always trump everything, but there are a lot of stupid people and dirty hippies in this world.
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i am sickened by the amount of stupid i am forced to confront on a daily basis. i have no faith that something like that wouldnt pass
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Oh wow, scary black rifles.... ruuuuuuuuuun.
That small piece of plastic makes it dangerous!!
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