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Old 03-20-2013, 12:31 PM   #41
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more abortions = less welfare

less abortions = more welfare

which do you want?
Im all for abortions, but not a single cent of taxpayer funds can be used. To me it's a shame that these kids are getting their spines sliced, but all I can do is make sure that my family never does it. These people are free to do whatever they want with their pregnancies, just don't make the taxpayers pay for them. I also would like to see a stipulation in social programs that will not give you MORE money for children (new children.)
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #42
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less abortions = more welfare

which do you want?
I concur, just make sure they are done early to avoid any personal moral issues. Every child a wanted child.
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Im all for abortions, but not a single cent of taxpayer funds can be used. To me it's a shame that these kids are getting their spines sliced, but all I can do is make sure that my family never does it. These people are free to do whatever they want with their pregnancies, just don't make the taxpayers pay for them. I also would like to see a stipulation in social programs that will not give you MORE money for children (new children.)
A couple hundred bucks today or tens of thousand's over years? Think about it.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:39 PM   #44
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #45
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I like the thought, its brilliant.

Next we line up people making less than $50k a year and put them in camps.
missed the point. it wasn't a suggestion. it's factual. i was just asking his opinion on the relationship between the two

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Im all for abortions, but not a single cent of taxpayer funds can be used. To me it's a shame that these kids are getting their spines sliced, but all I can do is make sure that my family never does it. These people are free to do whatever they want with their pregnancies, just don't make the taxpayers pay for them. I also would like to see a stipulation in social programs that will not give you MORE money for children (new children.)
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I concur, just make sure they are done early to avoid any personal moral issues. Every child a wanted child.
I agree with about everything you said. I don't know why any late term abortions are allowed unless there is a danger to the mother.
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How do u guys feel about the death penalty given your concern about costs?
The death penalty process is a cost nightmare. Cheaper to keep them locked up.
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it's usually less costly to just lock them up. endless appeals run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to kill someone.
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I would be against the death penalty if we had labor camps in the US. until we do, I am pro death penalty. However, I really hope a politician brings labor camps to fruition. A life sentence of hard labor is a most excellent punishment.
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it's usually less costly to just lock them up. endless appeals run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to kill someone.
Sad but true. Morally im pro death penalty. Financially, it doesn't make much sense.
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I did, and I incorrectly assumed the resident libtards can read between the lines. I could have posted a fox link but then everyone would have their titties in a twist. The fact of the matter is simple...Cuomo wants to make late term abortion legal, have the ability for non doctors perform them, for almost any reason, without limit. I realize this is "no change" and "no big deal" to the liberals.
He wants to make legal what's already legal?

Good gracious, what shall we do?
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He wants to make legal what's already legal?

Good gracious, what shall we do?


Why don't you read the law man...

NYS allows abortion after 24 weeks to PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

Cuomo's new law will allow abortion after 24 weeks to protect the HEALTH of the mother ("for any health reason.") If you can't understand the difference between the two then there is no point of having this conversation.

Everyone in Cali with a weed prescription has cancer and glaucoma right?

Cuomos law will also allow the procedure to be performed by non-MDs.
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I did, and I incorrectly assumed the resident libtards can read between the lines. I could have posted a fox link but then everyone would have their titties in a twist. The fact of the matter is simple...Cuomo wants to make late term abortion legal, have the ability for non doctors perform them, for almost any reason, without limit. I realize this is "no change" and "no big deal" to the liberals.
Before you start "reading between the lines" try just "reading" first. As stated in the article, there'd be no change in what type of abortions are allowed. Pretty straightforward. But, please, continue lashing out, because it certainly helps support your view.
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breaking news, late term and partial birth abortions are disgusting and nobody supports them...
+1. Conservatives just pigeonhole every pro-choice person as a baby killer.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:12 PM   #55
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Before you start "reading between the lines" try just "reading" first. As stated in the article, there'd be no change in what type of abortions are allowed. Pretty straightforward. But, please, continue lashing out, because it certainly helps support your view.
Read above post. NYS does NOT allow late term abortions unless the mother's life in danger. The new law is proposing we change the word life to the word health, which can be used and abused as a loophole, much like the loopholes of medical marijuana are abused. While federal law allows for abortions to protect the health of the mother (with many restrictions) the state law forces people to leave the state to get late term abortions and keeps the rate down. NYS refuses to enforce THAT law thats on the books, but loves to pass new ones like a 7 round magazine limit which goes AGAINST the constitution. Yea, no need to read between the lines.
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+1. Conservatives just pigeonhole every pro-choice person as a baby killer.
Conservatards are anti-choice until they need that choice.

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For some insane reason, tea-party Representative Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee taped himself pressuring his mistress into getting an abortion back in 2000, the Huffington Post reports today. DesJarlais, now a pro-life Republican congressman, was a doctor at the time, and met the woman when she had a foot problem during a rocky time in his marriage. "You told me you'd have an abortion, and now we're getting too far along without one," DesJarlais tells the woman, according to a transcript of the recording obtained by HuffPo. "This is not fair to me. I don't want you in my life," the woman says. "Well, I didn't want to be in your life either, but you lied to me about something that caused us to be in this situation, and that's not my fault, that's yours," DesJarlais responds. The woman counters, "Well, it's [your] fault for sleeping with your patient."

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Why don't you read the law man...

NYS allows abortion after 24 weeks to PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

Cuomo's new law will allow abortion after 24 weeks to protect the HEALTH of the mother ("for any health reason.") If you can't understand the difference between the two then there is no point of having this conversation.

Everyone in Cali with a weed prescription has cancer and glaucoma right?

Cuomos law will also allow the procedure to be performed by non-MDs.
Explain to me what "legally superior" and "basically no change" mean.

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The practical effect of the move is actually less than meets the eye, though. Cuomo is basically just trying to change state law to match the already legally superior federal law and ensure consistent access to such abortions in case Roe v. Wade is overturned. In other words, there would be basically no change in what kind of abortions are allowed in New York.
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Breaking Yahoo News

OP once I read the title and saw you posted it I knew it'd be another Yahoo News copy and paste. Nothing against the article but how about giving a little insight of your own and not just simply placing the article in a new thread. Kudos for generating a discussion but just my observation.
It's news not a dissertation. I posted it for awareness. A discussion was generated because of it? Great.

There shouldn't be much to say. It's murder through and through. I think it's a little ridiculous that the defense attorney is throwing the race card into this matter.

Besides I get entertainment by reading ridiculous responses and seeing who actually read what.

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Because I just don't post opinions that carry no weight like yourself. 90% of your posts are insults on other people's opinions. Talk about adding no substance to a discussion. It's entertaining though.

And if I really wanted to gain the greater approval I would side with liberals every time yet I do not. How about you really speak your mind and not jump on the bandwagon of other's?
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Why don't you read the law man...

NYS allows abortion after 24 weeks to PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

Cuomo's new law will allow abortion after 24 weeks to protect the HEALTH of the mother ("for any health reason.") If you can't understand the difference between the two then there is no point of having this conversation.

Everyone in Cali with a weed prescription has cancer and glaucoma right?

Cuomos law will also allow the procedure to be performed by non-MDs.

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