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Old 03-25-2013, 10:50 AM   #21
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WTF is all I have to say

Where is Jessie Jackson, where is Obama, where is the press. This is the most horrible thing I have seen all day

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1296312
Funny how you reach out to the black community in tragedy.
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If I do something about it (speak out on the issue,) it would be considered a hate crime at worst and labeled a bigot at least. Im not interested in the outrage of E46 fanatics. Where is Obama, saying that if he had a kid they would look like this kid. Where is Jackson and Sharpton? Crickets huh? Ban AR15s....think of the children....oh wait...
Okay youre being hyprocritical

why bring race into this?

It's okay if white people kill black people and black people kill black people but leave white people alone?
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:45 AM   #23
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Okay youre being hyprocritical

why bring race into this?

It's okay if white people kill black people and black people kill black people but leave white people alone?
Hardly. Nice try though. Its hypocritical if you are going to call out white people, but not say a word when it's a minority. Either keep your mouth shut about ALL the races or call ALL of them out. Calling out one is actually racists. Obama decided to comment on the Zimmerman case....a case which is STILL not solved today. For all we know, Martin was the criminal and Zimmerman was the innocent one. Why did Obama feel the need to make a comment? Because the dead guy was black? Guess what, Chicago has plenty of them. Obama decided he will racebait, and you're calling me the hypocrite....funny.
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That was ridiculous. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that.


The reason why Steubenville is a big story is because an entire town tried to sweep a rape under the rug and they almost got away with it.

I don't understand it either. How can an entire town try to cover up a rape charge for 2 punks in high school when the evidence was so overwhelming.

What if it was their wives, mothers daughters etc......

That kind of behavior does not / would not encourage me to move there or potential businesses to locate there.

That is the kind of reaction I would expect in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or India. Not the U.S.




As tragic (fvcked up is a better word) this story is, it really is just a open and shut case.
Yes, they were convicted but if I remember correctly, they only received a year of confinement in a juvenile detention center.

I feel sorry for the girl and her family. I can't imagine how tough it would be to have to continue living in the same community , going to the same school.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:59 AM   #25
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Hardly. Nice try though. Its hypocritical if you are going to call out white people, but not say a word when it's a minority. Either keep your mouth shut about ALL the races or call ALL of them out. Calling out one is actually racists. Obama decided to comment on the Zimmerman case....a case which is STILL not solved today. For all we know, Martin was the criminal and Zimmerman was the innocent one. Why did Obama feel the need to make a comment? Because the dead guy was black? Guess what, Chicago has plenty of them. Obama decided he will racebait, and you're calling me the hypocrite....funny.
Let me take that back; my comments are to those that say "don't bring up race"

Race matters

White people get angry when black people hurt white people.

White people get angry when black people defend black people.

Anyways proceed; this thread should get interesting.
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Let me take that back; my comments are to those that say "don't bring up race"

Race matters

White people get angry when black people hurt white people.

White people get angry when black people defend black people.

Anyways proceed; this thread should get interesting.
I get mad when there is injustice against anybody regardless of their skin color .... especially Steubenville, the women that get raped in India and Pakistan etc...

To be honest, I have never lost sleep over any of it. But I don't understand how a society can be so careless and insensitive to victims of crimes like these.



BTW, I have been to Brunswick , GA. It is a smallish town on the southeast coast of GA, right on the ocean. I did not know they had people so mean there. Damn. ...Nice coastal area though.
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For all we know, Martin was the criminal and Zimmerman was the innocent one.
You're right. So far, all we know is that Martin is the dead unarmed one, and Zimmerman is the armed one who stalked him, tried to detain him, and killed him.
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Let me take that back; my comments are to those that say "don't bring up race"

Race matters

White people get angry when black people hurt white people.

White people get angry when black people defend black people.

Anyways proceed; this thread should get interesting.
People hurt people, thats life. I don't get angry when a black hurts a white or a white hurts a black. I get angry when the media and politicians cry when a white hurts a black but not vice versa...also ignoring the fact that blacks hurt whites FAR FAR more often.
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If I do something about it (speak out on the issue,) it would be considered a hate crime at worst and labeled a bigot at least. Im not interested in the outrage of E46 fanatics. Where is Obama, saying that if he had a kid they would look like this kid. Where is Jackson and Sharpton? Crickets huh? Ban AR15s....think of the children....oh wait...
You can reach Sharpton yourself at 1 800 450 7876 weekdays from 1-4 pm monday-friday. He has a radio show. Feel free to call. Also his call screener doesnt filter calls.
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People hurt people, thats life. I don't get angry when a black hurts a white or a white hurts a black. I get angry when the media and politicians cry when a white hurts a black but not vice versa...also ignoring the fact that blacks hurt whites FAR FAR more often.
Serious ? Where is your supporting data on crime?
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Serious ? Where is your supporting data on crime?
I already posted it, several times. It's 85/15 when you break it down. Not even close. It's actually even worse than that, they count Hispanics as Whites in the FBI statistics so you have interracial gang violence mixed in with the white numbers.
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You can reach Sharpton yourself at 1 800 450 7876 weekdays from 1-4 pm monday-friday. He has a radio show. Feel free to call. Also his call screener doesnt filter calls.
Not sure what that proves....that I am willing to call him out? The issue at hand is that HE is a racebaiting scumbag.
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Yes, they were convicted but if I remember correctly, they only received a year of confinement in a juvenile detention center.
I don't know where you're getting this information.
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Not sure what that proves....that I am willing to call him out? The issue at hand is that HE is a racebaiting scumbag.
He's no worse than you.
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He's no worse than you.
Yes, because I turn communities against each other, exploit the deaths of minorities for my own financial gain, continue spreading propaganda to those in the inner cities so that they continue to sit in their situation rather than have the motivation to get out of it, etc. Trollin aint easy but it's necessary.

BTW, thanks for proving my point I made earlier....calling the issue out makes you a bigot, or whatever else you'd like to label me today.
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BTW, thanks for proving my point I made earlier....calling the issue out makes you a bigot, or whatever else you'd like to label me today.
What issue? Have these men been released free? Has someone tried to sweep the case under the rug? What is the issue that you want to draw attention to here?
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What issue? Have these men been released free? Has someone tried to sweep the case under the rug? What is the issue that you want to draw attention to here?
Look no further than Born Again's last post to see why this needs attention.
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Not sure what that proves....that I am willing to call him out? The issue at hand is that HE is a racebaiting scumbag.
Then you're not as passionate about this issue as you want us to think. You're the one who wants to know where's Sharpton on this issue. Ask him. I guess your question was rhetorical huh?
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Then you're not as passionate about this issue as you want us to think. You're the one who wants to know where's Sharpton on this issue. Ask him.
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Should the media get outraged over every murder that happens daily in the US?


There is, at first brush, no controversy with this story. Controversy is what brought the Zimmerman case to the top. If there is no controversy, the media has nothing to sell/sensationalize.


For what it's worth this story was on the CNN homepage, a local news sources (stltoday.com) home page and the Fox News home page....so, it's definitely getting coverage.
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