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Old 03-24-2013, 10:18 PM   #1
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Which would you fix first??

I recently bought an '02 325xi touring/wagon with 140K mi and had my independent shop do a post-purchase inspection.

We took care of the immediate needs but I asked them to peek around for things that might become an issue down the road.

Here's their list of things for the "near future":

-- Serpentine belts cracking slightly ($175 replacement)
-- Power steering pressure hose (pump to rack) leaking ($415 replacement)
-- Power steering hose (reservoir to cooler) leaking ($195 replacement)

Two questions for those e46 gurus out there:

1) Which would you fix first (based on a quick scan of the forums, it seems like there are more belt-related horror stories than the others, no?)?
2) Do any of these jobs cry out for additional pro-active replacement of other related components while the techs are "in there"?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:21 PM   #2
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Serpentine belt and AC belt. While they're in there I'd have the pulleys and tensioner replaced
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:26 PM   #3
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:35 PM   #4
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$175 for the belts?! Does it come with make up?
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:38 PM   #5
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I recently bought an '02 325xi touring/wagon with 140K mi and had my independent shop do a post-purchase inspection.

We took care of the immediate needs but I asked them to peek around for things that might become an issue down the road.

Here's their list of things for the "near future":

-- Serpentine belts cracking slightly ($175 replacement)
-- Power steering pressure hose (pump to rack) leaking ($415 replacement)
-- Power steering hose (reservoir to cooler) leaking ($195 replacement)

Two questions for those e46 gurus out there:

1) Which would you fix first (based on a quick scan of the forums, it seems like there are more belt-related horror stories than the others, no?)?
2) Do any of these jobs cry out for additional pro-active replacement of other related components while the techs are "in there"?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
First let me say you've got THE most beautiful color combo in all the world!! MGG with beige interior. (hint: look at my garage)


Next comment: Yeoooooooooooooooooooooow!! Are you getting super raked with price quotes equaling an expensive dealer from an indy? YES!

Can you even come close to DIY? Because these are relatively straightforward tasks. Even if you had to buy tools from scratch and throw them away after you finished these jobs, you'd still save lots of money.

Let us know if you want us to help because we know where all the good DIY's are online.

And seriously, please tell us what the list of "immediate needs" were along with the prices you paid for those?

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Old 03-24-2013, 10:39 PM   #6
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you can diy all of that for probably less than 200$ including tools
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:40 PM   #7
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Thanks y'all. I'll get a quote for the full job and noodle on when to do it.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:40 PM   #8
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Belts easy diy, for 20-30 bucks for both belts...
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:48 PM   #9
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Adionik -- Stinger -- UpperCut -- SnowBall: thanks for your help...

1) My "independent" is probably high zoot $$ because they're well-reviewed and reliable and easy-access, so I didn't expect a bargain -- but didn't want to goof off for the first inspection. The immediate needs were brake fluid flush ($100) and a four-wheel alignment (the car pulled left, $100).

2) I'm willing to get my hands dirty to save money, as long as I can be reasonably sure not to screw up any high $$ items. Got links to any battle-tested DIY instructions I can use?
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:52 PM   #10
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Sweet looking ride Stinger! Wish I had your wheel look too...
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:56 PM   #11
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Seems like you went to dealership. $400 for pressure hose R&R..phew!
Get parts from links below, and visit local indy shops. It'll save 30-50%

1a) Serpentine belt. http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11281706545/ES10334/
1b) AC belt. http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11281437450/ES10369/
2) PS pressure hose. http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/32416751242/ES2598604/
3) Return hose http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/32416796680/ES1929450/
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:05 PM   #12
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Thanks for the list mack89 -- run across any good noobie DIYs to go with the parts??

Before this car I owned a string of Audis that got dealer-serviced. Maybe I'm not tuned into "independent pricing" yet! ;-)
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:10 PM   #13
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I recently bought an '02 325xi touring/wagon with 140K mi and had my independent shop do a post-purchase inspection.

We took care of the immediate needs but I asked them to peek around for things that might become an issue down the road.

Here's their list of things for the "near future":

-- Serpentine belts cracking slightly ($175 replacement)
-- Power steering pressure hose (pump to rack) leaking ($415 replacement)
-- Power steering hose (reservoir to cooler) leaking ($195 replacement)

Two questions for those e46 gurus out there:

1) Which would you fix first (based on a quick scan of the forums, it seems like there are more belt-related horror stories than the others, no?)?
2) Do any of these jobs cry out for additional pro-active replacement of other related components while the techs are "in there"?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello from a fellow Portlandier!

Agreed about replacing the Serpentine belt (and associated pulleys and tensioners) first. A failure on that part could be catastrophic. Which shop did you take it to?
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:13 PM   #14
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Remarkably, the two items you mentioned so far are very fair prices! I'd pay those prices myself.

Here's one of the easier ones to find:


And for the belts:

The only catch is that you have an automatic trans which makes the fan removal a pain.



PS--this isn't brain surgery. We all started in the learning mode.
But obviously you're going to have to make your own call.
Warning: DIY is addictive!

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Old 03-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #15
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$175 for two belts and the 15 min it takes to change them...

I'm in the wrong business.

The belts are the easiest, hoses are not bad if you remove everything to make room to work. There's a separate DIY section that should have what you need. Search and it will be listed.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:24 PM   #16
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Hey fellow Portlander! Thanks for the info. Sent you a PM too...
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:27 PM   #17
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Thanks RKiepper -- will do my homework in the search box and figure out what I'm prepared to tackle.

I always balance repair quotes against the "true" bill I might expect from mopping-up my own DIY mistakes! ;-)
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:44 PM   #18
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Warning: DIY is addictive!
Ha! I know... that's what I'm afraid of!

Thanks for kick-starting my video search.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:03 AM   #19
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$175 for two belts and the 15 min it takes to change them...
Do you have a manual? He doesn't.
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Do you have a manual? He doesn't.
I don't have, or use a manual when working on my car. I think the only thing I ever have trouble with are pinout diagrams.
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