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Old 04-02-2013, 02:24 PM   #1
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Car won't move when cold. ((UPDATED))

2004 325i, automatic transmission.

My car won't move when i start my car. The RPMs went past the 2000 but didnt move. After letting it warm up for 5 minutes it started moving but slowly slowly. And got better after few minutes sometimes. Also, I feel the jerk sometimes when its shifting.

The transmission was replaced about 3 years ago with a used tranny which had about 70k miles on it and i only put another 20k miles on it.

Can anyone please help me with this. Thank you
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:25 PM   #2
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Sounds like your tranny is jacked. Maybe try changing fluid
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:26 PM   #3
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Could simply be extremely low on tranny fluid.

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:32 PM   #4
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It's frozen, let it thaw overnight...

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:46 PM   #5
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Seach my user name and "transmission" you will likely find more info than you would prefer to read.

Make sure fluid is not low first, but likely internal hydraulic leakage when cold.

Need to carefully nurse car and possibly manual shift until trans fluid warms up a bit.

Also check the 3rd link below in my signature for engine coolant temp issues and note the auto trans has a specific thermostat for it in the bottom of the expansion tank as well.

But engine temp and trans thermostat will not likely do much to improve matters.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:03 AM   #6
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Thank You guys.
Even if it is low on fluid it means that there is a leak. I am probably gonna put it it on a lift and check everything out. My MAF is also not good becasue the engine runs the same if i disconnect the MAF.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:07 AM   #7
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Maybe your tranny was a little low on fluid since the replacement, because it takes a
severe leak to lose that much fluid.
Did you disconnect the MAF with the engine cold? It runs in open loop
at that time, also there is usually a check engine light with a bad MAF.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:29 AM   #8
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Its normal if its very cold where you live.

Mine has been doing this since new pretty much.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:34 AM   #9
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Definitely related to your tranny. As other members had mentioned to you that either the fluid is low or old. I believe the fluid is old. I had the same symptom on my 99' e46, but mine wasn't taking 5 mins, only 2-3 minutes or so. Once I had the tranny fluid flushed entirely and now the transmission shift like new regardless of the temperature.

I had it done at a trusted shop with 12 quarts of tranny fluid. I wanted to make sure that all of the fluid are drained... The labor was only $100 and that was the best investment so far on my e46
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yes, it is low on fluid. I put it on lift & everything was wet. and the fluid was dripping from the transmission. I found out that it is the transmission seal. I hope i can get the parts on sunday so we can take out the tranny.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:01 PM   #11
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Its normal if its very cold where you live.

Mine has been doing this since new pretty much.
No, it is normal. the weather is getting better now, but it didn't had any problems before.
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Definitely related to your tranny. As other members had mentioned to you that either the fluid is low or old. I believe the fluid is old. I had the same symptom on my 99' e46, but mine wasn't taking 5 mins, only 2-3 minutes or so. Once I had the tranny fluid flushed entirely and now the transmission shift like new regardless of the temperature.

I had it done at a trusted shop with 12 quarts of tranny fluid. I wanted to make sure that all of the fluid are drained... The labor was only $100 and that was the best investment so far on my e46
The fluid was filled with new OEM transmission fluid when i replaced it the transmission.
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:34 PM   #13
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So here is a little update:

The transmission seal is broken, & it is hard as a metal. Finally got the new seal from the dealer and should be done within 2 days.





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I imagine more than your front torque converter seal is hard.

You likely should reseal the clutch packs and install new clutches since you have the trans out of the car??
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #15
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I imagine more than your front torque converter seal is hard.

You likely should reseal the clutch packs and install new clutches since you have the trans out of the car??
Its almost finished now. Just need to put the exhaust back in the morning, will see what happens.
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Congrats for finding the problem! Are you sure that tranny only had 70K when they put it on?
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:55 PM   #17
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Congrats for finding the problem! Are you sure that tranny only had 70K when they put it on?

It should have the correct mileage, bought it from LKQ.

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Old 04-15-2013, 07:45 PM   #18
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Okay, my car is alive again. The new seal solved the problem & it shifts/drives perfect.

Also, found out that my oil filter housing gasket was bad so that was also replaced.


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Glad you got it sorted.

Was this a DIY?

Was the seal just hard and brittle and crack?

I think this is about the 3rd or 4th one like this in the past few months.

Hopefully this is not a new failure mode that many of use are going to be seeing?
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What is the function of that seal?
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