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Old 03-11-2014, 10:16 AM   #1
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Recommend me a security camera system for my shop

I'm looking for a new security system for my shop. I currently have a shitty Lorex system which only has a 3 day DVR. I already have 6 cameras, but I'm trying to get more (8-10 total). Which camera/monitor/dvr set-up do you all suggest? Night vision required. I want to be able to set it up so that I can monitor it when I'm not in my shop. Budget: $2,000.
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CCTV and DVRs are crap and old

Get IP HD cameras, an NVR and a PoE switch

http://wrightwoodsurveillance.com/in...roducts_id=259

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Please to be explaining "IP HD cameras, an NVR and a PoE switch"
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CCTV and DVRs are crap and old

Get IP HD cameras, an NVR and a PoE switch

http://wrightwoodsurveillance.com/in...roducts_id=259
I have no clue what that is...
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I have no clue what that is...
Eli has some really good videos

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IP cameras mean they they deliver their video signal to a server in digital format and can be viewed from most web browsers and compatible phones. an NVR (network video recorder) is basically the server is sends it to, and that server does the recordind and arching of the footage. It's basically the same things as a DVR, in fact I see the terms used synonymously. PoE means power over ethernet, so you won't have to string multiple cables to each camera (video output, and power at minimum). Using PoE the video signal and power for the camera will be delivered over a single ethernet cable. Makes installation so much easier.

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Eli has some really good videos

Watch all of them and you'll be a security expert
Yes he does, but no you won't. That's like calling a general contractor (who is good at his work) an architectural engineer.
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IP cameras mean they they deliver their video signal to a server in digital format
IP Camera means that the camera is a layer 3 device and is capable of communicating on an Ethernet topography. IP Cameras are self contained (web) servers in themselves and don't require a server (NVR) to connect to at all.

and can be viewed from most web browsers and compatible phones. an NVR (network video recorder) is basically the server is sends it to, and that server does the recordind and arching of the footage. The good cameras also have on board memory cards and can function (view, record, playback, configure) without need for an NVR at all. (~ $250 and up each)

It's basically the same things as a DVR,
They are completely different

in fact I see the terms used synonymously.
By people that have a poor understanding of the technology

PoE means power over ethernet, so you won't have to string multiple cables to each camera (video output, and power at minimum). Using PoE the video signal and power for the camera will be delivered over a single ethernet cable. Makes installation so much easier.
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Yes he does, but no you won't. That's like calling a general contractor (who is good at his work) an architectural engineer.
To become a residential security camera "expert" (enough to qualify, buy and install it yourself), you only need to dedicate about 2 hours of research.

It's not hard and those 3 videos will get you there

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To become a residential security camera "expert" (enough to qualify, buy and install it yourself), you only need to dedicate about 2 hours of research.

It's not hard and those 3 videos will get you there
I can agree you will have expertise with security camera installation and administration. The more encompassing title of "Security Expert" you stated before mislead me.
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^ Thanks, now how about an entire system that I could buy? Or would I just need to get those cameras that you linked me to JJ?
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I have installed Samsung and Cisco surveillance systems. These are on the mid-high end of the market though, I would suspect there are the same quality cameras for a bit less. The Samsung one I actually would not recommend, their mobile viewing app sometimes works, sometimes fails, and the admin interface is like a Sunday comic. The Cisco devices are very nice, easy to install, the admin interface is powerful and remote viewing always works.
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I can agree you will have expertise with security camera installation and administration. The more encompassing title of "Security Expert" you stated before mislead me.
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^ Thanks, now how about an entire system that I could buy? Or would I just need to get those cameras that you linked me to JJ?
Watch the videos yet? Every environment and need is different. If you just want to throw up some cameras. buy one of those 399.99 packages with 16 cams and a DVR with 3 FPS

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CCTV and DVRs are crap and old

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http://wrightwoodsurveillance.com/in...roducts_id=259
Watching the vids you posted, in the meantime, just curious...I love the idea of CAT5 fed cameras...easier to run than coax and has both power and data within it...however, can you explain what you run the other end of the cat5 cable into? A computer? What if you have 5 of them? Also, do you HAVE to have a recorder at home or do you pay a service monthly where your data is uploaded to and kept for X amount of time (lets say 2 weeks)...thanks for the help!!!
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Watch the videos yet? Every environment and need is different. If you just want to throw up some cameras. buy one of those 399.99 packages with 16 cams and a DVR with 3 FPS
Honestly, I'm looking for one of these packages, but I want it to be good. I already have one of those $399 packages and it sucks... that's why I wanted one of those better packages with a higher spending limit.
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check the other camera threads, same ideas hold true, equipment cheaper than before.

For $2000 (not including labor) you can get a very decent set up.

I prefer old school hard wired RG59+Cat5 or Siamese cabling myself for the non techie customer.

You can get very very good non-HD cameras nowadays for less than $200 each.

Stand alone DVRs can use several standard hard drives. I get 30 days with 16 cameras on 30fps.

It really depends on what you are trying to do and how hidden you want your cameras.

To me, I would rather have a bunch of different types of cameras with different lenses than a few top of the line cameras.

Here is a 5 year old $200 camera...If you need much better than that then go HD.

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Still watching videos...what is better for home surveillance (mounted outdoors)...no lux or low lux? Seems like the no lux cameras wash out anything right near it, showing you basically a big white blob...seems pretty useless for home use...is low lux the way to go?
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