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Old 04-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #1
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Keep or Sell???

81,500 miles carbon black m3, bi-xenon, hk sound, csl breaks, milltek exhaust, stainless steel brake lines.. im faced with the decision if i should sell or keep her since she was just diagnosed with VANOS failure... what do you guys think i could get for her if i sell AS IS... She's great inside and out, garaged, and babied like im sure all of us do. - Thanks
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:00 PM   #2
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A remanufactured VANOS from drvanos.com is $1350. See if the car is worth that much to you.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:02 PM   #3
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IMHO the buyer would be getting the better end of the deal if you sold.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:07 PM   #4
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At the very most just swap the S54. But really... just replace the VANOS unit.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:19 PM   #5
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Yeah i was fine with the 1,350 but then i was faced with another 900 on top for the Exhaust Hub which can also give out around the same time(correct?) i don't want to make my mechanic do the same job twice so if im keeping her id rather just have the work done. So now its at 2,250 plus labor at my friends shop, best case scenario would be 2,700. And yeah buyer would definitely get the better end of the deal..
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #6
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Start looking around at other cars and see what's out there before you make any sudden decisions... And when looking at these other cars keep asking yourself if you would be happy with any of them over your M3. $2700 is a lot of money (for me at least) but once you spend it and get your car fixed you two will be reunited and you and your M3 can scream down the highway the way she was designed to. And then maybe that 2700 will become a distant, although slightly painful memory and you will still have a lovely M3
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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Brakes god dammit. BRAKES! B-R-A-K-E-S.

Sorry huge pet peeve of mine.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:36 PM   #8
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Brakes god dammit. BRAKES! B-R-A-K-E-S.

Sorry huge pet peeve of mine.

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Old 04-05-2013, 02:43 PM   #9
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Yeah...

Assertion: Got my brakes done today
Response: Oh, nice. Rotors and pads or what?

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Assertion: Got my breaks done today
Response: Intersting... What did you have broken? And...why..?
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:54 PM   #10
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These cars have potential for expensive repairs all the time. This to me does not seem like an out of the ordinary amount of cash to spend on maintenance for any BMW. It's definitely on the higher side but you should always have a few thousand bucks laying around for these kind of times. You had to know when you bought the car that they are expensive and that things happen. If you have the money to fix the problem then I would do it. The value of the car broken will be a bigger hit then if you fix it and sell it when it's running great. Good luck and sorry to hear about all this.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:59 PM   #11
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So you want to sell your car because you think you can get an equivalent or better car for less money??? Or whats your scenario. Or you will sell it and buy something of a lesser value or a lesser car, like some chinacar

Why are you crying? , you bought an M3 and now that it needs a bit of work you suddenly think thats it makes sense to dump the car and buy another one?

Do you really think that it will be cheaper for you to sell this car and buy another one, instead of fixing this car?

Wipe the tears and fix your car
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #12
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This car would be less expensive if you fix it yourself. What is besians solution for this problem. What part of the vanos went out? coil pack? sealing plate? sticking valves?

My vanos is m54 and i put in the bearings and seals for $120....the job was sort of in depth but videos and tutorials for everything to guide you...to replace3 it is like $500+

the e46 in general are prohibitively expensive if you dont work on it yourself for a lot of people.

this is not the last thing that will break on your car.

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Old 04-05-2013, 07:48 PM   #13
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http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=966657

what is this guy doing to prevent exhaust hub failure?

send him your piece...and see what he can do with it. hes looking for people to test on
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:37 AM   #15
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I went to the shop last night and dropped off the money for all the parts im, fixing her! Theres just no way i can part with her especially after i just got her looking and sounding exactly how i wanted. And in terms of what my plans were for a purchase if i did sell, i was just going to get myself a ducati 999 to hold myself over for the summer. But im happy i made the decision to keep her. The money really isnt a drastic issue, ive just had bad experiences with cars turning into money pits, but honestly the car has no other problems at all.. however they can be unpredictable. I initially wanted to sell the car between 85-87k miles on it so i could get my money back, thats why i was thinking if i should just sell it now before i dumped more cash into it. However, i love the car too much and if i fix her ill just sell her a little later and probably end up getting the same amount of $ back and still have more time to enjoy my M!
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:45 AM   #16
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imo, a BMW if maintained properly and diagnosed properly will not turn into a money pit. Properly is the key word. A lot of people just throw parts at the problem, most at the urging of some unscrupulous or unskilled, or both, mechanic, and lose their faith in the car.
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I mean, i purchased the car with 73k about 6 months ago, im the 3rd owner and have just about all service records for the last 7 years. So shes been maintained quite well and i have no intention to do otherwise. As for throwing parts at it, my buddy spoke to drvanos on the phone and we both did quite a bit of research so id just rather be safe than sorry and mite as well take advantage to replace what needs to be once the motor is apart.
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I don't really understand people that expect to get their money back out of cars they buy to drive. The only way to do this is to get a steal on the purchase price, which is unlikely on an M3.

If you buy it to drive it, expect to pay to play. If you want to make money, you'll have to find a broken car and fix it to sell. Even then, the chances of making enough money to make it worth your time are slim.
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I mean, i purchased the car with 73k about 6 months ago, im the 3rd owner and have just about all service records for the last 7 years. So shes been maintained quite well and i have no intention to do otherwise. As for throwing parts at it, my buddy spoke to drvanos on the phone and we both did quite a bit of research so id just rather be safe than sorry and mite as well take advantage to replace what needs to be once the motor is apart.
No, I am not doubting you have the right diagnosis. I am just saying a lot of people in your place would throw it a plethora of parts for this issue-- starting from the throttle body, ICV and MAF.
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I don't really understand people that expect to get their money back out of cars they buy to drive. The only way to do this is to get a steal on the purchase price, which is unlikely on an M3.

If you buy it to drive it, expect to pay to play. If you want to make money, you'll have to find a broken car and fix it to sell. Even then, the chances of making enough money to make it worth your time are slim.
Well this is my 4th car, 2nd bmw, first M, and i have managed to make money on all of my previous vehicles. However this one is the highest milage so i guess i should expect to loose a little on it.
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