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Old 04-06-2013, 10:40 PM   #1
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Dems trying to push manditory gun liability insurance; $10k fine

Heres the next attack on lawful gun owners. You must purchase liability insurance or face $10k fine per firearm.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/03/de...tting-threats/
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So you try to step on our rights time and time again and your shocked?

Dumb bitch.
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No different than forced car insurance.

When you choose to own / operate an item that can kill or maim another, like a car or gun its a good idea to have insurance anyways.

...ever been hit by an uninsured driver?
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:13 AM   #4
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No different than forced car insurance.

When you choose to own / operate an item that can kill or maim another, like a car or gun its a good idea to have insurance anyways.

...ever been hit by an uninsured driver?
Ever got a $10k fine for not carrying car insurance?

Is owning a car a constitutional right?
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:23 AM   #5
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Another example of the government trying to use the Interstate Commerce clause illegally.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:38 AM   #6
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Ever got a $10k fine for not carrying car insurance?

Is owning a car a constitutional right?
No I haven't, because I have insurance.
those who don't, are forced to get it or lose their license.

It's not about rights vs. privileges.

The right of owning a gun, should also come with responsibility.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:28 AM   #7
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Lol, do you Have any idea what insurance is going to cost? Fuckem' there not getting a dime from me.

Your a prime example how many in this country are brain washed. The government finds a simple task and finds a way to make it take three times as long at four times the cost. Why fix something that's not broke? O please Mr libtard.... Wtf is the benefit of this bill?
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Lol, do you Have any idea what insurance is going to cost? Fuckem' there not getting a dime from me.

Your a prime example how many in this country are brain washed. The government finds a simple task and finds a way to make it take three times as long at four times the cost. Why fix something that's not broke? O please Mr libtard.... Wtf is the benefit of this bill?
I am not brainwashed

I am not a libtard

You do not know me, other than the fact that I am of the opinion that just because owning a gun is a right, doesn't mean it is free.
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No I haven't, because I have insurance.
those who don't, are forced to get it or lose their license.

It's not about rights vs. privileges.

The right of owning a gun, should also come with responsibility.
It IS about rights vs privileges. Blacks were charged a poll tax until the passage of the 24th Amendment. That solidified the precedent that the government cannot charge people to exercise a right.

Driving is not a right, and never has been in any state. It is not mentioned in any state constitution. It is a privilege, which is why you can lose your license for driving without insurance in most states.

I own my guns, I don't have a loan on them that can go into foreclosure and need a bailout. I have a safe, so if anyone gets to them it's likely unavoidable at that point. It's easier to steal my car, and cars are responsible for 36,000 deaths per year in the US. I teach all my family members and friends responsible gun ownership and safety principles. I am highly trained and know more about shooting and guns and legal use of force than you ever will.

What further responsibility do I need to have? What would be the need for me to have insurance if I have no intention of murdering someone? Is it so that I can insure someone ELSE, like some ghetto hoodrat that bought a stolen gun using drug money or cashed-in EBT/government assistance money?

Explain your logic to me using legal and constitutional facts. If you can't and you continue to hold your position, you are a typical libtard idiot.

How about this- I want you to have insurance for oxygen use. I want you to be able to pay every time you exercise negligent use of oxygen. That way, when you say something stupid, you have to pay me money.

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The benefit is, if some dumb, clumsy dork who happens to own a gun drops it while cleaning and a bullet goes through my wall and injures someone... That something other than "sorry" will be said and done.

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On that same vein, for every responsible gun owner, there is probably as many people who own one that shouldn't... And when they flub up, and they will and do all the time, an insurance would and should be in place to make amends for any damage done.
This is why there are civil lawsuits, as well as criminal penalties for stupidity. Seems to me that if we're not going to enforce the criminal laws, they're not going to do a good job enforcing insurance laws. Maybe we should start by prosecuting people who violate the current laws? I know that when I arrest a felon in possession of a gun, they can be booked into jail and then let out of jail within a couple hours. Explain that one to me. How is it that we need more laws when we don't even enforce the ones we have?

Also, the assertion that someone drops a gun and it fires is pretty much impossible with modern weapons. You watch too much TV.
The only way it can happen is if the gun is in a negligent state of repair, but there again, there are civil lawsuits that solve that.
You are doing what every libtard does- victimize and punish every law abiding gun owner when there is no justification for it. If you claim that you are NOT a libtard, why are you backing every platitude they're espousing? And by "they" I mean shitheads like Nancy "Cunt Rage" Pelosi and Diane "Skeletor's Yeast Infection" Feinstein; people who are regarded as the token libtards.
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I didn't say I back every platitude, in fact, I back none of them.

I just happened to see this title and made a comment.

You obviously have an In depth handle on the law to which I am no match.

I am not a very political person really,

Perhaps I should have known better than to post in a politically angled thread, especially one about guns.

Sorry to Ryle everyone up.... Carry on then.
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ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS ALREADY!!! If there is an incident where someone is injured or killed by negligence, there WILL be a million dollar lawsuit filed. You act like nothing happens when this occurs. Your insinuation is that nothing happens, and this is completely false. If someone is injured, there is a lawsuit at the very least. If there is criminal negligence, there will be criminal charges.
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ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS ALREADY!!! .
This I definitely agree with.
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i came in to give bimmer4lyfe a smack down, but it looks like reedo got r done.
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Here's the funny thing: they'd have to mandate the creation of an entirely new class of insurance, one that covers you for intentional acts.

Every other form of liability insurance has the same clause: intentional acts are excluded from coverage. If you intentionally hit another persons car with your own, you're on the hook for all damages.

This would also be, for the first time in history, the federal government mandating liability insurance. They don't have that power with car insurance, they don't have that power over any private business. That is all determined by the states. But somehow, the federal government thinks they have the power to impose gun insurance, in case my gun accidentally goes off? So instead of me paying to fix a bullet hole, someone can now sue my insurance company for five hundred thousand dollars worth if repairs.

The anti gun crowd is getting desperate now. They realized they can't get an AWB through both sides of congress, now they're going to try anything they can.

I'm sure the criminals responsible for 99% of all the gun deaths will be lining up to buy insurance for their guns.
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No different than forced car insurance.

When you choose to own / operate an item that can kill or maim another, like a car or gun its a good idea to have insurance anyways.

...ever been hit by an uninsured driver?
New York....

That is all. Brainwashed
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No different than forced car insurance.

When you choose to own / operate an item that can kill or maim another, like a car or gun its a good idea to have insurance anyways.

...ever been hit by an uninsured driver?
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i came in to give bimmer4lyfe a smack down, but it looks like reedo got r done.
Yup...typical liberal backpeddling at the end.

Bimmer, how many guns do you own?

Creating a law like this will kill my hobby. I cant afford to insure every new gun I buy. I enjoy being free, I enjoy buying a gun and using it for a couple weeks and then selling it to fund a new toy. It's going to have a minimum impact on somebody with one or two but somebody whos a collector would spend more in insurance than his yearly pay.


I hope that bitch looks over her shoulder for the rest of her life.

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Won't ever happen. Because its a right, creating a financial barrier to exercise it deprives the lower income population from exercising that right legally. They can't afford to buy the insurance. It comes down to a de facto deprivation of rights for a whole class of people and that will never pass constitutional muster.
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New York....

That is all. Brainwashed

Lol, you believe everything you read.

Look it up, see who's address that is.... Hint, it's not mine.


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Yup...typical liberal backpeddling at the end.

Bimmer, how many guns do you own?

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I'm not as into sharing with the Internet world the details of my arms as some here... But sounds like you have more than I as you are a hobbyist.

Liberal back pedaling, pfffff...

I made a few comments wherein I was proven wrong, and then admitted it.

Whats the matter with being wrong? .... never been wrong before?
Or just too stubborn or prideful to admit it?

You ask me, we would be better off if people could admit when they are wrong (if its proven) and reverse their stubborn stance on any given position.

It's the a$$holes that keep trudging foreword, even when that know they have been proven wrong that you should look out for in this world.

Ps. I have never voted Democratic on any ballot in my life.
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So you have no guns?
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